Is this meant to help increase IT investment in the EU? If so, it may not work. The message people get is "GTFO".
GDPR Enforcement Tracker: List of GDPR fines
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#102Does enforcement changes behavior? I guess the time will tell. But I do expect some insurance companies start selling GDPR coverage policies soon.
My guess is that nobody is going to sell coverage for fines that could range up to €20 million that can be assessed under a set of regulations as vague, difficult to follow, and up to interpretation as GDPR.
There's nothing difficult to follow in GDPR... unless you're specifically trying to continue collecting too much personal data while trying to skirt the law.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's good to be reminded of how many backwards laws there are in the world. Every country is a little bit fascist and insane and it makes you appreciate the good parts of your own country.
Until you realize the "receiving end" of that: It also means that in those "fascist" countries, you have a right not to be filmed, even in public.
That's just a reductionist stance and when you follow that line of thinking to its conclusion then it would mean being illegal to record anything outside of your own house which is ridiculous because people need to film their kids going to the beach or take selfies in the mall. The negative side effects of prohibiting public photography greatly outweigh the positives.
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It does not explicitly require warnings, but Art. 83 ( https://gdpr-info.eu/art-83-gdpr/ ) requires that the authority, when deciding whether to impose a fine, takes into account a number of things. It would be hard to argue for an instant fine if the things listed in the article were favorable in a specific case.
It shouldn't need to be explicit when the enforcement agency has the discretion of deciding appropriate action and whether or not to prosecute. Otherwise there's no discretion and they become rubber-stamp agency. By the same token UK law doesn't include warnings in the Acts for offences that almost always get a warning or caution on first offence, e.g. possession of class B drugs.
When you get to actual penalties, all EU law has the principle of proportionality under it, and has since about the sixties. I know it's written into some treaty or other. There's been countless appeals to the EU courts that some penalty or other was disproportionate.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
On public streets, yeah, that's kind of insane. It's pretty common for people to have a dashcam running with a buffer so if you're involved in a not at fault accident or someone vandalizes your car, or such things, you have documentation.
Some societies think that tracking people on public spaces isn't acceptable either. I don't know why it would be insane - if anything, losing all privacy because you stepped out of the house is the insane thing.
Insane would be the fact that i cannot use pictures/video taken in a public setting for my personal use. Publicising these pictures/videos are another thing and that is covered by GDPR.
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#106The fact that someone was fined for using a dashcam is beyond absurd.
Austria has had a ban on dashcams for years, though, so it is not a new thing brought by GDPR. Another EU country with a similar ban is Luxembourg.
Based on this article [1], it looks like EU country laws on dashcams ranges from similar to the US, to legal but with restrictions on the duration, retention, or use of the footage, to illegal to use subject to fines, to illegal to use subject to prison, to illegal to even own one regardless of whether or not you are using it.
How aware are EU drivers of these differences? Is it well known to those in places with less restrictive rules that their cameras could get them in a lot of trouble if they take them with them when they take a road trip that passes through other EU countries?
[1] https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/998528/Dash-cam-ca...
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Until you realize the "receiving end" of that: It also means that in those "fascist" countries, you have a right not to be filmed, even in public.
That's just a reductionist stance and when you follow that line of thinking to its conclusion then it would mean being illegal to record anything outside of your own house which is ridiculous because people need to film their kids going to the beach or take selfies in the mall. The negative side effects of prohibiting public photography greatly outweigh the positives.
I disagree. I don’t give a fuck that you want to take a selfie. Don’t include me in it, period. I have a right not to be photographed.
Of course... different strokes. That’s why different countries exist.
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I explained in the next sentence what makes me expect this: "Many of the less serious ones I read explicitly mentioned warnings that were ignored."
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Austria has had a ban on dashcams for years, though, so it is not a new thing brought by GDPR. Another EU country with a similar ban is Luxembourg.
Based on this article [1], it looks like EU country laws on dashcams ranges from similar to the US, to legal but with restrictions on the duration, retention, or use of the footage, to illegal to use subject to fines, to illegal to use subject to prison, to illegal to even own one regardless of whether or not you are using it. How aware are EU drivers of these differences? Is it well known to those in places with les…
Don't know dash cams specifically, but it's common knowledge that laws surrounding what's in your car (e.g. emergency kit) vary and you need to check up on that.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
> unless you're sure you that can afford making these kinds of mistakes, don't provide a service on the internet DOT sounds good
Everybody makes mistakes. Which makes GDPR a recipe to hand over whatever remains of the Internet to only corporations that afford paying for them.
Sure, but there are different kind of mistakes. Surgeon can make a mistake, but it's a different kind of mistake if instead of a surgeon, a plumber cuts the patient with a kitchen knife.
I agree it's a difficult problem and it's hard to define boundaries, but some level of competence is welcome when handling data that belongs to other people.
If you start some internet service, I expect you not to lose my data (in some lame way, s.h.), just like I expect my car mechanic not to destroy my engine.
edit: to give it context, I closed my programming website with thousands of active users that I had for almost 20 years because of GDPR, I'm not a big fan of it, but what I like even less is when complete incompetence when handling personal data results in zero consequences