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Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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Re: Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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You're not wrong, but this is how I learned about in-season vegetables. I can keep my garden going year-round, but it took time and learning, so I'm not suggesting it's possible for everyone (especially once you take geography into account). It's hard work! But even as a relatively staunch environmentalist, I didn't really "get" in-season produce until I tried keeping a garden 365 days a year. Now it sticks, and I ha…

If I tallied up all we spend on our garden and divide the amount of produce we get from it by that figure, it would make Whole Foods' prices look ridiculously cheap...

Food as a Service ...

Re: Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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post #56

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You're not wrong, but this is how I learned about in-season vegetables. I can keep my garden going year-round, but it took time and learning, so I'm not suggesting it's possible for everyone (especially once you take geography into account). It's hard work! But even as a relatively staunch environmentalist, I didn't really "get" in-season produce until I tried keeping a garden 365 days a year. Now it sticks, and I ha…

If I tallied up all we spend on our garden and divide the amount of produce we get from it by that figure, it would make Whole Foods' prices look ridiculously cheap...

And I pay a premium for eggs from a small farm where chickens are fed well and allowed to wander.

No even whole foods is charging the correct price for goods when one takes into account the environmental impact.

Re: Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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I, for one, don't care about my phone. I routinely forget where I put it. I use it a total of ~15 minutes a day. My desktop computer, on the other hand, I check hacker news every 5 minutes. Even if I know there's nothing of interest or I've already read all the comments about things I care about, I check just in case.

this site has been useful for me to stop checking HN regularly. It keeps track of all Top-X threads per day. So I can check it on the weekend or whenever and see if I missed anything important. http://hckrnews.com

infinite scroll!

a. no thanks!

b. heroin for the information addict

Re: Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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I consider my information addiction as one of the top 2 personal problems that are holding me back in my life. The only thing that works for me every once in a while is going cold turkey and blocking off as many websites as I can in my hosts file. I'm surprised there isn't a serious accessible product that helps people manage this addiction, because unlike drugs you can't realistically not use the internet ever again…

Read books instead. Every time you want to browse the web, pick up a book. After you have read the book, only visit sites that discuss said books. Books can be garbage but at least they have some peer review. You have to understand that the web is designed to get you to click. It's the ultimate pavlovian step. Places like HN and reddit are actually the worst because you see and read mostly bullshit that lacks context nor substance. If you are an expert in something that comes up on HN, expect to become disillusioned for example. And on reddit.. well good luck.

Re: Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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I broke out of a long term video game addiction (I think we can call it that now) a few years ago. I still go back to them from once or twice a year and I'm always surprised by how hard the grip of them is even after just a play or two. Not all games grip me hard but some just suck me in and suddenly I'm burning 5-6 hours a night Have you tried graphic novels? I've found them good for when I get restless.

Graphic novels are another form of escape. Have you tried mindfulness? I've found it useful for literally everything, ESPECIALLY when restless.

What does this mean? What do you mean by mindfulness?

Re: Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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In my experience the issue isn't so much cutting off the supply but what to do to fill the time. It's not as easy as taking up a new hobby, for me at least. I think information addiction is really tricky because it's compromising a key part of what humans are, information processors. We are always processing some kind of information, all the time. I can go straight from video gaming to reading a book, but my mind tak…

I was the same before. I could get myself to sit down with a book and read, and wanted to, very much actually, but could only stomach it for 15-20 minutes. Then I was looking for the next dopamine fix. And not every day. It was a bit boring, really, compared to all the things I "learned" from just skimming hacker news. It took a long time, but now I can easily read for an hour. My normal routine now is to wake up an…

One counterintuitive trick that has worked for me is to fire up my "manager brain" in daily life. When you do most white collar work, especially as a manager, your job consists largely of filtering a huge number of potential inputs/jobs and focusing intently on the highest value/leverage ones. Instead of fighting my increasing tendency to scan for a new dopamine hit, I allow my brain to wander for a moment and then to consider the highest value option, which frequently turns out to be continuing doing what I'm doing so that I gain the advantages and compound interest of depth in an activity and do not incur the cost of context switching. I will say that this takes a little enjoyment away from going truly deep and achieving flow, for example, where you lose your sense of time and become engrossed in the narrative/activity/whatever, but it's a bit of a jiu jitsu move and allows you to fight the world around you less and use it to your advantage a little more. I still think tuning out and removing distractions is valuable, but it's a good complementary practice.

Re: Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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post #16

I consider my information addiction as one of the top 2 personal problems that are holding me back in my life. The only thing that works for me every once in a while is going cold turkey and blocking off as many websites as I can in my hosts file. I'm surprised there isn't a serious accessible product that helps people manage this addiction, because unlike drugs you can't realistically not use the internet ever again…

I've been using the StayFocusd [1] extension in Chrome, which gives you a daily allowance on sites you list. ... but then I found myself using Safari to get around that allowance. There's also Forest [2], which "gamifies" staying away from websites for a certain time. It's the Chrome extension version of the Forest iOS app [3] to stay away from your phone. I like to think of StayFocusd as the stick, and Forest as the…

Thanks for the reminder about forest. I realized that with the widget view on ios + having an apple watch, it is more useful.

I can run some shortcuts and time trackers from widgets, start/stop timers etc and use the phone/watch for a bunch of practical stuff while working, but having the screen blocked from distractions by forest.

Hadn’t worked for me before as I missed those functions.

Re: Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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post #105

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Graphic novels are another form of escape. Have you tried mindfulness? I've found it useful for literally everything, ESPECIALLY when restless.

What does this mean? What do you mean by mindfulness?

Non-religious meditation, I presume.

Re: Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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post #16

I consider my information addiction as one of the top 2 personal problems that are holding me back in my life. The only thing that works for me every once in a while is going cold turkey and blocking off as many websites as I can in my hosts file. I'm surprised there isn't a serious accessible product that helps people manage this addiction, because unlike drugs you can't realistically not use the internet ever again…

>because unlike drugs you can't realistically not use the internet ever again and nowadays it's SO easy to go down the rabbit hole even from innocent and serious sites.

I can relate so deeply to this sentiment. Especially lurking on deep web, and other pointless rabit holes.

>Every once in a while I humor myself with a building such a product, but I really don't know what features would work. Any suggestions?

Easy? Blocksite app for Android and there are many for others.

Re: Information is like snacks, money, and drugs to the brain

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post #61

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I was the same before. I could get myself to sit down with a book and read, and wanted to, very much actually, but could only stomach it for 15-20 minutes. Then I was looking for the next dopamine fix. And not every day. It was a bit boring, really, compared to all the things I "learned" from just skimming hacker news. It took a long time, but now I can easily read for an hour. My normal routine now is to wake up an…

I've found that there's a "hump" where reading a book where I get bored and want to do something else after 15-20 minutes, but if I'm really engrossed and stick that out, I can find myself literally reading all night long, for hours at a time, until I finish the book. (I'm someone who tends to finish books in 1-2 sittings; I never really understood folks like my mom who'll read for 15 minutes a day and nurse a book f…

>I'm someone who tends to finish books in 1-2 sittings; I never really understood folks like my mom who'll read for 15 minutes a day and nurse a book for months.)

I hope it isn't pointless self help book. I used to be exactly like that until I realized how pointless they are.

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