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Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by epanchin »

Yetanfou wrote: post #56

When confronted with reCAPTCHA I always switch to the audio-version as that: - is generally easier to solve (download the sound clip using curl or wget, type in the nonsense it says, done) - does not turn me into a mechanical Turk training Google's AI - works in 'any browser' by circumventing the browser (by using wget/curl), thereby not allowing Google to punish me for not using their dragnet/browser.

While you find this convenient, others may find it imperative.

Somewhat akin to labelling your pet dog a support animal or using a disabled bathroom.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by granshaw »

fasthandle wrote: post #85
dessant wrote: post #39

I was going through the same ordeal as a Firefox user, so I've made Buster to solve challenges and reclaim some of that lost time: https://github.com/dessant/buster If you're a developer, please consider replacing reCAPTCHA on your site with an alternative. reCAPTCHA discriminates against people with disabilities and those who seek privacy, and it gaslights you into thinking you did not solve the challenge correctly,…

reCAPTCHA also just doesn't work in the most populous country in the world. translate.google.cn does, but Google's reCAPTCHA does not. This is a big pain point. Thanks for the link to turingtest, I will certainly test it.

To be fair, lots of things on the internet don’t work in the most populous country in the world.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by sulkie »

Ocha wrote: post #27

FYI. Title is misleading. This experience has nothing to do Firefox vs Chrome. Result is because of 3rd party cookie and tracker blocking. I had same and even worse (I was not able to get through captcha) experience on chrome itself because I have 3rd party cookies disabled and couple privacy oriented extensions running.

This cannot be entirely correct as I use Chrome and Firefox with as close as possible configuration, with uBlock Origin with exact same settings, and the behaviour I've encountered is very similar to the one shown here. I'm logged in to my google account in both browsers as well.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by timdorr »

bscphil wrote: post #74
bduerst wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The newest version is going to be invisible - i.e. it just "works" without a questionnaire. It's based on a scoring system that doesn't prompt users unless the website owner wants to prompt them below a specific score. You've likely already used it but don't remember it because it was invisible.

That was supposed to be what this version was (reCaptcha v3). As a matter of fact, however, quite a few of us get extremely long or unsolvable captchas every time.

No, the OP is showing v2. v3 doesn't have any UI for end-users: https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3 It is simply a scoring system, applying an ML model to typical actions for your website.

It's up to the site owner to determine how to handle those that don't meet v3's score, which can be a traditional CAPTCHA or hopefully something more effective and forgiving to humans: https://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by zuppy »

Yetanfou wrote: post #56

When confronted with reCAPTCHA I always switch to the audio-version as that: - is generally easier to solve (download the sound clip using curl or wget, type in the nonsense it says, done) - does not turn me into a mechanical Turk training Google's AI - works in 'any browser' by circumventing the browser (by using wget/curl), thereby not allowing Google to punish me for not using their dragnet/browser.

I'm using the audio too. The image captcha is simply broken, it often doesn't let me pass even though I've provided the only valid answer.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

peteretep wrote: post #89

Would it be possible to build a Firefox plugin that creates and isolates the requisite cookies to allow reputation to be built, but at least partially maintains privacy? I was thinking maybe something that has 10 difference Google sessions, and shards them depending on the website, deciding which to send to the Captcha. You'd build reputation at 1/10th the speed, but you'd still potentially build it. Or, one that all…

I doubt it's easy, so I prepared such a setup myself, i.e. I keep a separate browser with a Google account and use it only when I really need to. Helps in cases like this one, but of course you give up some privacy - hopefully just the minimal bit.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by matteopey »

This is the experience with the `privacy.resistFingerprinting` flag set to true. A while back I made a few try to see how the behavior change with different settings and extensions, you can see the result here: https://github.com/google/recaptcha/issues/268#issuecomment-...

I solved the problem by using an extension that toggle that flag: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/toggle-resist...

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