It might help us all avoid people with serious problems, and likely bad attitudes.
SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Most billionaires are not willing to move into a high-crime, high-poverty neighborhood with shitty housing sure, but I don't think any existing laws would prevent them from just buying a second house in a bad part of their home town and using that address for applications and I can't see how the College Board could reliably detect this.
Your primary residence is listed on your tax returns and determines which school district you're entitled to attend. Misrepresenting it can result in criminal charges, and schools do check: https://whyy.org/segments/the-money-shot-how-school-district... They'd have a tough time explaining to colleges why their transcript is from Good School District Across Town when they listed their address as Dumpy Neighborhood Wit…
Rich people go to private schools so they don’t care what address have. Buying a $5k shithole house in your same city and county won’t affect your taxes and won’t affect school distribution so no one is investigating that except the SAT police.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
The tests are correlated with grades. You're trying to say the correlation isn't there for some subgroups. Are you basing it on anything? The same gaps that appear on these undergrad tests show up on the grad school tests such as the LSAT, GMAT, GRE etc.
I'm not trying to say there's no correlation from some subgroups. Obviously there is. I'm trying to say that if you're trying to predict performance in a new environment (college) you can improve the prediction by correcting for factors (bad home environment during high school) that affect current test scores but won't be active in the future. How large the correction should be can only be answered by large populatio…
Good point. It would be extremely useful to be able to pinpoint factors that are transient vs. those that stay with someone and continue to affect future performance..
Re: SAT to Add ‘Adversity Score’ That Rates Students’ Hardships
#104FTA: "The score would not be reported to the student, only to college officials."
Brilliant. Another aspect of the already sketchy admittance process that will be overanalyzed and ultimately gamed to death -- assuming that this score truly has value to begin with.
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#105"Adversity Score" sounds a bit like something you'd find at the "Oppression Olympics", which is a term often used to criticize exactly this type of thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppression_Olympics
Identity politics is becoming a parody of itself.
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#106College is now an artificial scarce resource and a signal to arbitrarily select well connected people (ivy league) or people who check a box (others)
Was it not always?
The debate shouldn’t be to distribute the scarce resource more equitably, it should be to increase the availability of the resource!
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do they determine one’s race in the US? Is there a central database where everyone gets a record at birth? Otherwise what stops me from reporting myself as black?
Nothing, although if colleges accepted you under the assumption that you reported who you were honestly, and then later found out that you weren’t who you claimed to be, you might find your acceptances revoked.
Probably not. I remember a story of someone who did this [0] and nothing happened.
I can only imagine the terrifyingly embarrassing situations where people of a race are challenged to prove their race and flip out because they are their race.
[0] https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains...
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#108This seems like a better system than just blindly adjusting scores based on race. It never made sense to me how a white kid from a broken home in rural West Virginia could be considered by some colleges as privileged over a black kid with multimillionire lawyer parents living in NYC.
But, I don't understand why College Board is computing this score, and not colleges themselves.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just like they were able to suss out all the student athletes who didn't actually do anything?
Considering the FBI busted the ringleader of the scam and a bunch of people are going to jail, this seems like an example of the system working.
As you say, the FBI busted the scam which went on for years (decades?) and the colleges all say they had no idea about it, right? So his claim that the colleges weren't able to suss this out is absolutely correct in 100% of all known cases, right?
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could do three years at a great school and then cap off with one year at a bad school to grab the diploma.
That is going to look like you fucked up horribly at great school and where going to get expelled but managed to avoid it by transfering.
Surely you mean "had to leave due to systemic oppression".