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A World Run with Code

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Re: A World Run with Code

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post #97

Not directly related to the article, but going through the comments, I felt the vibes and wanted to express my theory about what it is that irritates many of the commenters here The highest pursuit is the search for truth. This includes the challenging act of discarding things that we'd really like to be true, but are false. The success of science can be attributed to extreme selfless intellectual honesty. The more e…

Newton was notoriously not humble. He's not the only one.

Re: A World Run with Code

#102
post #97

Not directly related to the article, but going through the comments, I felt the vibes and wanted to express my theory about what it is that irritates many of the commenters here The highest pursuit is the search for truth. This includes the challenging act of discarding things that we'd really like to be true, but are false. The success of science can be attributed to extreme selfless intellectual honesty. The more e…

While I definitely agree with you that this is the general pattern in life, the thing is that people aren't always either humble or arrogant, and it is possible to see the truth while being arrogant too. Even Wolfram must have days, or hours, maybe minutes - let's say seconds - when he's humble. And sometimes he also sees the truth while being arrogant. Therefor it's a form of arrogance to dismiss (generally) arrogan…

You are absolutely correct and I even deleted an entire section in my original post how things are never just black or white but it got too long. Thanks for bringing it up.

Re: A World Run with Code

#103
post #97

Not directly related to the article, but going through the comments, I felt the vibes and wanted to express my theory about what it is that irritates many of the commenters here The highest pursuit is the search for truth. This includes the challenging act of discarding things that we'd really like to be true, but are false. The success of science can be attributed to extreme selfless intellectual honesty. The more e…

Newton was notoriously not humble. He's not the only one.

Interesting, thank you - I'll do some research.

Re: A World Run with Code

#104
post #72

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I read once that a soldier in Russia was supposed to fire off nuclear warheads once when faulty sensors erroneously indicated that America had already done so. Had the system been a mathematical contract, we would all be dead. Instead, a hero determined sat pondering whether he should do it and then realized the sensors had to have been defective as he wasn't dead yet.

You're probably thinking of Stanislav Petrov: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Petrov

Yes and thanks for linking. I re-read it and according to the article he didn't actually have the power to press the button, but not immediately reporting to his superiors who had the "button" had the same impact and my previous statement remains true about automated systems built by imperfect beings.

Re: A World Run with Code

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post #42
post #11

I find Stephen Wolfram to be a an interesting person. On one hand, he is undeniably exceptional and created an impressive computational system. On the other hand, the "Wolfram language" is really a pretty poor design as far as programming languages go, and would not even be noticed if it wasn't for the giant standard library that gets shipped with it, called Mathematica. I use the "Wolfram language" because I have to…

"25. 20 points for naming something after yourself. (E.g., talking about the "The Evans Field Equation" when your name happens to be Evans.)" http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html

His company is named after his last name (as many companies are) and the product names start with the company name.

This has nothing to do with "The Evans Field Equation"

Re: A World Run with Code

#106
post #66

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Before stating this with complete certainty, I would ask Oliver Sacks first. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife_f...

His patients realized something was wrong with their perception, unlike a computer.

Some of them did!

Re: A World Run with Code

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post #25

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In the same vein, "Human intelligence" led to the 2008 crash. Human's aren't infallible either. My problem with this argument is that there is no logical basis for how exactly human intelligence is different. Computers aren't there yet in most domains, but there is no evidence to say they can't get there. How soon is anybody's guess right now. While AGI might be far off, I can certainly imagine computers running larg…

"My problem with this argument is that there is no logical basis for how exactly human intelligence is different." I can give you a partial answer, which is that human intelligence is somewhat slower, which mitigates the ability to crash the entire economy in 15 seconds. That's why a stock market can crash in 15 seconds nowadays, but "the housing market" can't. This gives people some time to do some things about it w…

Slower only because humans need more time to arrive at the same conclusions, and use more data points. Either one can be made true of computers too.

Re: A World Run with Code

#108
post #22

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In the same vein, "Human intelligence" led to the 2008 crash. Human's aren't infallible either. My problem with this argument is that there is no logical basis for how exactly human intelligence is different. Computers aren't there yet in most domains, but there is no evidence to say they can't get there. How soon is anybody's guess right now. While AGI might be far off, I can certainly imagine computers running larg…

Qualitatively, humans are likely to say, "Whoa! Hold on. This doesn't make sense." when presented with unreasonable data, while algorithms are likely to proceed and do whatever. We don't have good programming abstractions for "This doesn't make sense." You want something between proceeding and aborting.

Why not? Probability + threshold/activation function in neural nets is basically modeling that.

Re: A World Run with Code

#109
post #44

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In the same vein, "Human intelligence" led to the 2008 crash. Human's aren't infallible either. My problem with this argument is that there is no logical basis for how exactly human intelligence is different. Computers aren't there yet in most domains, but there is no evidence to say they can't get there. How soon is anybody's guess right now. While AGI might be far off, I can certainly imagine computers running larg…

Humans don't think kittens are avocados with complete certainty because someone flicked a speck of green paint on the kitten.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_example

Re: A World Run with Code

#110
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the same vein, "Human intelligence" led to the 2008 crash. Human's aren't infallible either. My problem with this argument is that there is no logical basis for how exactly human intelligence is different. Computers aren't there yet in most domains, but there is no evidence to say they can't get there. How soon is anybody's guess right now. While AGI might be far off, I can certainly imagine computers running larg…

The biggest problem with “human intelligence” is that our memory is so short and influenced by emotion. Though judging by the amount of data created and lost over the last decade, that’s probably true of computers too.

But is emotion bad? Emotions can be thought of as programmed biases, and we might have evolved them because they are collectively good for the species. Emotion is what caused many of the examples stated in this thread where a human made a better decision than a computer.
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