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India successfully shoots down satellite in space

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Re: India successfully shoots down satellite in space

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I wonder why the prime minister felt the need to announce this himself. If I remember correctly the Chinese premier did not announce their test.

Modi takes the credit for anything achieved by the government or government backed entities like the space organisation. He singlehandedly opened bank accounts (that are empty), surgically struck Pakistan (with his bare hands), got us to space, developed missiles, brought the black money back, won the cricket world cup, created jobs, built the mandir (that's built, right?) and a million other achievements. What's cur…

Historian Guha put it nicely, "Modi doesn't share credit, not even with Lord Ram".

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Pretty funny you should mention Nehru. Tweets from official Congress party account credits today’s event to Nehru. Both sides resort to the same kind of tactics.

Jawaharlal Nehru and Abul Kalam Azad pretty much built entirety of India's Human resources development and Industrial infrastructure with what was one of the poorest countries at the time.

Historic opportunity meets historic people. Jawaharlal Nehru is one of the best things to happen to India both politically and economically. 5 year plans effectively, though taken from the communist governments of USSR, were one of the greatest political innovations of the age. Focus on big things, 5 years at a time and get it done. Agriculture, industrialization, educational infrastructure, space programs, domestic industrial infrastructure, highways, green revolution, white revolution etc. If you are sitting and working in place like Bangalore, that comes from Industrial infrastructure and its inertial effects on educational institutions around Bangalore.

Needless to say garden variety international foreign affairs policies. Which include but do not end at NAM. Which prevented India from becoming a thugs for hire nation for cold war super powers.

This is above and beyond his pivotal role in India's independence movement.

Dude gets credit because he got work done.

Re: India successfully shoots down satellite in space

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Then everybody will do it secretly. It's only a travesty when someone starts it; other people have the right to respond to parity with their own.

There's no way to secretly test these weapons. To be clear, I'm not objecting to the weapons existence. I'm objecting to the tests, which are potentially worse than above-ground nuclear testing. The kessler syndrome, if realized, would permanently destroy our ability to deploy, access, and use space resources.

It 300km in low earth orbit. Press briefing said that the debris will re-enter the atmosphere within a week.

Re: India successfully shoots down satellite in space

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Satellites are sitting ducks. This feat is as admirable as kicking down a sandcastle on the beach. We need an international treaty banning this because the detritus produced in the form of hundreds of thousands of new fragments in orbit is one of the largest threats to future space development.

Look who didn't read the article.

Re: India successfully shoots down satellite in space

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It is definitely possible that the exercise was carried out independent of the election schedule, but Modi announcing it (instead of some lower official) is because of the elections, part of making every bit of possible patriotism count. Don't be too quick to overstate others' positions!

Modi heads the Department of Space. He has every right to announce it whether you like it or not. As far as overstating positions go, the opposition in India was quick to jump to conspiracy theories after the Pulwama attack saying that Modi orchestrated the entire attack for political gains. This ridiculous conspiracy theory mongering has gone on to unprecedented levels this election. After failing at making a dent f…

I'm not Indian (or from any nearby country!). I do not care if BJP wins the next election or whatever is going on. I am not part of the opposition. Your passion is so overwrought that you are seeing opposition where it isn't.

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Pretty funny you should mention Nehru. Tweets from official Congress party account credits today’s event to Nehru. Both sides resort to the same kind of tactics.

Jawaharlal Nehru and Abul Kalam Azad pretty much built entirety of India's Human resources development and Industrial infrastructure with what was one of the poorest countries at the time. Historic opportunity meets historic people. Jawaharlal Nehru is one of the best things to happen to India both politically and economically. 5 year plans effectively, though taken from the communist governments of USSR, were one of…

Eh, I'm not questioning what Nehru did for the country. That's not even the point of discussion. But it is pretty idiotic to attribute recent technological/military success to Nehru, just as it is idiotic to blame him for today's problems in the country.

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Unless some pieces were boosted higher by the explosion. But I guess they are confident this could never happen.

When you boost an orbiting object in this manner there's only two possibilities for what can happen next: a) you give it enough energy to reach escape velocity, in which case there's no problem. b) you blow out the circular orbit into a long ellipse. The far end, apogee, can be very far out depending on how much energy you added, but the near end, perigee, is always at the same altitude as it was at the moment of imp…

c) it collides with something and creates more debris problems before ultimately falling back into the atmosphere.

It doesn’t have to be in a sustainable orbit to cause problems.

Re: India successfully shoots down satellite in space

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Strangely, I'm not seeing a wide enough condemnation of this. Another country is building destructive weapons, bringing down LEOs; how is this a good thing? All the while the region suffers from chronic poverty, poor access to clean water and basic services. Sending a science mission to space is great and rightly lauded, this is wasteful and energies spent better elsewhere.

Here it is: “India anti-satellite missile test a 'terrible thing,' NASA chief says”

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/02/india/nasa-india-anti-missile...

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