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Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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People are committed by the state (MN at least) for mental health reasons, and in certain cases, forced to take neuroleptic drugs, some of which are injected. Tyranny? In my opinion, promoting an anti-vaccination stance is akin to shouting fire in a crowded theater, or should be viewed as such. It's a public health risk.

If you were committed by the state for mental health reasons, and in certain cases, forced to take neuroleptic drugs, some of which are injected, would you consider that tyranny? I definitely would ... But I concede that's a pretty hard problem to deal with. I don't have any answers. I personally know someone who is wrongfully convicted and serving a prison sentence. Maybe my mind is corrupted by movies but I've seen…

Wrongful conviction is an unfortunate part of our justice system. In some cases it is rectified, and others it is not.

My point was that people who refuse vaccines and people with mental illness who refuse to comply with treatment potentially both pose a danger to others.

If someone is harmed, whether by preventable disease or violence as a result of another's refusal to accept the recommendations of medical professionals, the party that refused vaccination/treatment causes harm to another without being held liable. Either someone else pays to make the party who suffered whole, or the party who suffered loses.

I feel the state should intervene when people are unable to make the correct decision about medical treatment when there are negative externalities. It's unfair to those who comply.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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It's a made up problem. There has always been lots of bad information. People are better informed than ever. Just take religion and magic and superstition which have declined a lot. It's a made up problem to justify authoritarian solutions.

But is it an authoritarian solution? Does that terminology make sense outside of the sociopolitical context of government action? I feel it really diminishes the meaning of the word, "authoritarian" when you throw it around to describe the rights reserved by a non-government entity to police its own platform. A private company has a platform, and they can choose what content to allow on the platform. If you don't lik…

It's bigger than "just one company". You say it's the company's free choice but that is not true. There is a large amount of pressure on companies to conform. It's a part of a broader movement to shut down dissent wherever it exists.

This movement is successfully censoring billions of people. The gloves are softer than before but the scale is larger and this is a huge threat.

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Holocaust denial isn't victimless. In fact, I would argue it's far more dangerous than these vaccine hoaxes. "It happened, and therefore it can happen again" is the motto here. It is the singularity of barbarism that has defined politics in Europe and the US ever since; the crown witness against militarism, nationalism, and populism.

> Holocaust denial isn't victimless. I never mentioned holocaust denial... but let's go with that. So long as it never happens again, it's victimless. And because it's not going to happen again (nobody of consequence in any position of authority over govt, the media, or academia is a holocaust denier). Antisemitism certainly has victims, but in any case that's not the same thing as holocaust denialism. > In fact, I w…

> I never mentioned holocaust denial

What did you mean when you mentioned

> it being physically impossible to incinerate 6M humans in the span of time the nazi's had to do it in the ovens that they had to do it in

in an example??

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It would be better to leave them up but force a disclaimer to scroll along the bottom the entire doco proclaiming factless and fictional in nature. I don't think hiding from these issues is the appropriate response. Nor is pouring gasoline on the fire fueling these conspiracy theories.

Isn’t there an in-between of doing nothing? Asking Amazon to publish an opinion is a pretty big ask. At least deleting the item doesn’t necessarily imply a position.

It does imply a position. And as others have said it's not an opinion.

Unless you also think me saying the sky is green is also an opinion.

Avoid conflating opinions and facts, that is basically trump logic.

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Arguable that sugar is more harmful than a video.

It sure is! Tell you what, I'm all on board for a massive awareness campaign by Google, Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Netflix on the dangers of sugar intake as well.

That's like the tobacco industry advertising the dangers of skin cancer.

Sure, good, I guess, but I'm left very confused.

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But is that true? Did they remove all videos based on false premises? And how did they decide the premise was false?

The one movie looks like it was 4.5 stars out of 5, with 3900 people rating it. It has more reviews than the Matrix.

Sex sells.

This is why the whole popular vote thing doesn't really work for stuff like this.

Humans are way too easily biased.

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To me, this action says "We have chosen not to publish material, that is based on indisputably false premises, that may harm viewers and the public at large." That sounds like an acceptable line to me.

While I believe anti vaxxers are wrong, there are very few things in the medical field that are "indesputible". Plus, this isn't just a black and white issue. What if a specific vaccine is released some day that turns out to be harmful? Harmful drugs frequently make it passed FDA approval only to be recalled later. If one of them happens to be a specific vaccine, are we going to be censoring any and all media that tr…

This possibility is why we need to snub it out, so that we can have these conversations without someone jumping to protect your kids don't Vax today.

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> Holocaust denial isn't victimless. I never mentioned holocaust denial... but let's go with that. So long as it never happens again, it's victimless. And because it's not going to happen again (nobody of consequence in any position of authority over govt, the media, or academia is a holocaust denier). Antisemitism certainly has victims, but in any case that's not the same thing as holocaust denialism. > In fact, I w…

> I never mentioned holocaust denial What did you mean when you mentioned > it being physically impossible to incinerate 6M humans in the span of time the nazi's had to do it in the ovens that they had to do it in in an example??

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Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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While I believe anti vaxxers are wrong, there are very few things in the medical field that are "indesputible". Plus, this isn't just a black and white issue. What if a specific vaccine is released some day that turns out to be harmful? Harmful drugs frequently make it passed FDA approval only to be recalled later. If one of them happens to be a specific vaccine, are we going to be censoring any and all media that tr…

"Occasionally vaccine manufacturers screw up and a drug is recalled" is pretty far from the Anti-Vaxx line.

But the anti-anti-vax line is "everyone should be required to get all immunizations under penalty of law".
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