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Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

#101

Post by cutety »

uniformlyrandom wrote: post #71
ravenstine wrote: post #37

Do TLDs even matter? I'm working on building a professional blog, and although a .dev TLD seems appropriate, using a cheaper one like .co or .be, or even .io seems functionally identical and a lot less costly. Paying hundreds or thousands for .dev seems like paying for pure vanity. Is it going to help people reach your site? I kinda doubt it. Will Google use it to index your site differently? Maybe, but I dunno. I ho…

.dev is only prohibitively expensive during the pre-sale. After Feb 28, there will be no extra charge ($0 one-time fee).

The initial $11k premium threw me off at first, but if you click the (not immediately obvious) “Early Access” button you can get the full EAP pricing chart, or here’s a direct link: https://support.google.com/domains/answer/9232417?hl=en#inva...

To save some clicks (in addition to the $12/year):

Feb 19: $11.5k

Feb 20: $3.5k

Feb 21: $1150

Feb 22-24: $350

Feb 25-27: $125

After the 27th you only have to pay the normal $12/year rate.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

#102

Post by josteink »

dragonwriter wrote: post #56
strictnein wrote: post #46

> ...it requires HTTPS to connect to all .dev websites. This protects people who visit your site against ad malware and tracking injection by internet service providers The latter is true (it protects against injection), but I'm not sure how the former is. How would it protect against ad malware?

I think you are reading it wrong. It's not “(ad malware) and (tracking injection by ISPs)” but “(ad malware and tracking) injection by ISPs”.

But nobody with any respect for themselves has an un-ISP doing borderline illegal shit like that.

It hardly seems like a worthwhile problem to solve at gTLD-scale.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

#103

Post by austenallred »

marksomnian wrote: post #13

There is one thing that annoys me about generic TLDs like .dev, .website, .cloud, .network etc. For example, Salesforce have https://crm.dev - are they the only CRM in the world? Hell no, but they're the biggest, so they can be the only one in the .dev space. Same with workers.dev.

If I own box.com can no one else sell boxes? It's just a namespace.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

#104

Post by xienze »

mslev wrote: post #38

Me: "Wow [myfirstname].dev is available! I gotta get it!" Aaaaaaand its $11,500.

Try to register through Gandi. They give you options that decrease in price all the way down to ~$16 -- that's the "get it when it GAs" price. If someone scoops it up before you, you're refunded. Otherwise, it's yours.

I managed to get .dev, and it's a somewhat common last name, for $133.50 on the "GA" pricing. I expect someone will grab it before then. But if not...

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

#105

Post by michaelt »

uniformlyrandom wrote: post #71
ravenstine wrote: post #37

Do TLDs even matter? I'm working on building a professional blog, and although a .dev TLD seems appropriate, using a cheaper one like .co or .be, or even .io seems functionally identical and a lot less costly. Paying hundreds or thousands for .dev seems like paying for pure vanity. Is it going to help people reach your site? I kinda doubt it. Will Google use it to index your site differently? Maybe, but I dunno. I ho…

.dev is only prohibitively expensive during the pre-sale. After Feb 28, there will be no extra charge ($0 one-time fee).

Unless it's a "premium domain" which has a separate pricing structure, independent of the release phase, and renewal fees that stay higher forever.

Hence, right now kjaegrlkjnfvaf.dev is "$11,500 + $12/year" [0] while hn.dev is "$11,500 + $720/year" [1]

So alex.dev and aj.dev will cost $720/year forever, tim.dev, james.dev and emma.dev are $360/year, tony.dev and grace.dev are $180/year, olivia.dev and harry.dev are $98/year, yusef.dev, oscar.dev and sanjay.dev are $12/year.

Maybe not "prohibitive" but a big premium for the Alexes among us!

[0] https://domains.google.com/m/registrar/search?searchTerm=kja... [1] https://domains.google.com/m/registrar/search?searchTerm=hn....

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

#106

Post by kemyd »

CydeWeys wrote: post #76
kowdermeister wrote: post #74

Hmm, any idea why the list of countries are so limited? https://support.google.com/domains/answer/4639612?hl=en

Google Domains is one of many registrars selling .dev domains. Feel free to use a different registrar that offers support in your country.

Prices for early access .dev domains in other providers are at least 2x higher.

For example, using GoDaddy, you can buy .dev domain for 800$ instead of 350$ on Friday (4th stage of early access).

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

#107

Post by nbar1 »

burger_moon wrote: post #39

Kinda weird that Google issued itself web.dev and opensource.dev It feels like those would've been better suited for non-profit orgs

The content on those domains is highly relevant and appears to be thorough. What do you think a non-profit could have used them for that would be better?

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

#108

Post by CydeWeys »

benologist wrote: post #99
icebraining wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Google Domains ain't issuing this TLD; Google Registry is, and they don't even push their sibling service, it's shown as any other. So I don't see the relevance in their thread.

Everything I said is true for Google Registry too... and anywhere else Google sells domains. They each should be ensuring domain portability for their respective customers and so far they're not doing that.

Can you clarify what exactly you think we're not doing? (Google Registry, that is.) Transfers are a contractually mandated requirement by ICANN, and we definitely support them.

Also, because of GDPR and WHOIS privacy/proxies, we frequently don't even know who the registrant for a given domain is anyway.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

#109

Post by dragonwriter »

josteink wrote: post #102
dragonwriter wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are reading it wrong. It's not “(ad malware) and (tracking injection by ISPs)” but “(ad malware and tracking) injection by ISPs”.

But nobody with any respect for themselves has an un-ISP doing borderline illegal shit like that. It hardly seems like a worthwhile problem to solve at gTLD-scale.

> But nobody with any respect for themselves has an un-ISP doing borderline illegal shit like that.

advertising and malware (both ad-related and not) injection by ISPs is a well documented global issue.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

#110

Post by benologist »

CydeWeys wrote: post #108
benologist wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything I said is true for Google Registry too... and anywhere else Google sells domains. They each should be ensuring domain portability for their respective customers and so far they're not doing that.

Can you clarify what exactly you think we're not doing? (Google Registry, that is.) Transfers are a contractually mandated requirement by ICANN, and we definitely support them. Also, because of GDPR and WHOIS privacy/proxies, we frequently don't even know who the registrant for a given domain is anyway.

What happens to the domains in your account if your Google account has become banned?

Same question for your colleagues at Google Domains.

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