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Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by epage »

lazerwalker wrote: post #82
dschep wrote: post #25

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I've actually seen (and need to do so myself) a few migrate to(or move even more into) Travis because they've added Windows builds. AFAIK they're the only hosted CI that offers Linux, Mac, AND Windows builders.

FWIW, as someone in the process of trying to set up an Electron app to generate Linux / Mac / Windows builds on CI, I found Travis's Windows support to be unusably slow and flaky. I hear Appveyor and Azure Pipelines are the two most usable Windows build systems; I'm quite happy on Appveyor.

> I hear Appveyor and Azure Pipelines are the two most usable Windows build systems; I'm quite happy on Appveyor.

Doing better than me. Only inertia keeps me on Appveyor. Once I have time to look into Azure Pipelines, I'm off Appveyor for my Rust projects.

At least for open source, Appveyor builds are serial (across all of my projects?) and you have to (had to?) go through hoops to setup cron triggers.

For serial builds, it is so bad, half the time I give up waiting and just submit.

For cron, I only care about scheduling about once a month or so to double check none of the tools I rely on break so contributors aren't the first to see them and have a negative experience.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by emilycook »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #74
imwm wrote: post #52

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We switched from Travis CI to Circle CI because Circle CI was (a) significantly faster and (b) a little cheaper

We made a smilar decision in 2017. The reason was that our builds were stupidly slow because travis uses cheap instances. There was no option to fix that other by allowing more concurrent builds. Travis has no feature to actually allow users to have reserved instances of a particular type. Money was not the issue; the feature does not exist. Builds were taking up to 20 minutes and with multiple team members doing prs…

GitLab is an LLC, GitHub is what's owned by MS

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by mbrumlow »

superqd wrote: post #56
throwawaymath wrote: post #2

Interesting. All I can tell from Idea's homepage is that it likes to acquire companies: https://www.ideracorp.com . It looks like it's just a private equity firm (or the acquiring arm of one, since it's owned by TA Associates). I've never heard of any of the software in Idera's brand portfolio. I wonder what the cultural change is like internally at a company joining the umbrella of a private equity firm.

Yeah, one of their "brands" is also called Idera, and I worked there for many years prior to the acquisition. But, yeah, just shortly prior to the acquisition, most of the dev group were let go to improve the bottom line, and a small group of 4 or 5 devs were kept and promoted to manage an outsourced team in some other country to continue developing the products. The atmosphere post acquisition was different, though,…

And then from a high rise to a shitty office space where you could regularly see hookers on the elevators and at least while I was there the bank at the bottom was robbed at gun point twice.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by foolip »

epage wrote: post #59
jrochkind1 wrote: post #9

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Yeah, I've been seeing lots of people switch to circle-ci or gitlab over the past year. Not totally sure why. Travis does what I need and I know how to use it, and I don't particularly want to learn something new for CI myself, I just want to code!

I feel dirty for saying this but Azure Pipelines is the service that is tempting to me because of the power of its file format (variable substitution, conditionals, template tasks and steps).

We use Azure Pipelines for https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt with some help from friends at Microsoft, and it's a great product!

It's very "power user" in that it's easy to get lost amongst all the options, but nothing else I've tried has the same breadth of OSes and ability to have one job depend on another in intricate ways. And, 10 free parallel builds, including macOS!

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by cheez »

dotancohen wrote: post #60
cheez wrote: post #7

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That's exactly what they do, and the reason is that there is a long tail of subscription revenue that will continue to trickle in. They monetize that very well (for the owners)

Honestly, for enterprise users that is a good thing. In the hands of a company like Idera we can be reasonably confident that Travis will not disappear anytime soon. Under independent - or forbid Oracle / Google stewardship - that is far less certain.

I completely agree. Not making a judgement on the model, it is what it is.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by audiolion »

andrewl-hn wrote: post #3

Looking at Idera portfolio, I see Embracadero (Delphi developers for many years), Sencha (Ext.js), Assembla (was GutHub of Subversion era). So it seems like they buy companies and products that were big and very important among developersin the past, but not necessary leading the pack today. I didn't think of Travis in that regard, though in a past few month I started to see Circle CI badges popping here and there fo…

I prefer TravisCI to CircleCI, but I can get CircleCI on a private repo with their free plan. I honestly don't prefer CircleCI's UI/UX, it frequently is missing or caching info and I have to hard refresh the page to get things to work.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by jarvuschris »

As a Sencha user that has gone through Idera acquiring a product I use, don't count on any product development or meaningful support coming out of them

Their model seems to be farming out choosing canned replies to the cheapest labor they can find. Things that break will stay broken, no one they keep employed will actually know how anything works, let alone how to maintain it.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by jhasse »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #51
radomir_cernoch wrote: post #20

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Personally, I've seen growing stability issues. Builds are failing for no apparent reason and work fine after a manual restart. Circe CI was the next free service to try.

Worth plugging https://sr.ht I guess. It's free for now and it's going to be very cheap[1] when it does start requiring a subscription. In addition to supporting the open-source developer who gave us things like Sway, you'd also be able to build on platforms like RISC-V, which I don't think anybody else offers. 1 - As little as $2/month, apparently.

No Windows or macOS support though. Also Git integration isn't as straight-forward as it is with Travis/Circle CI.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by ethomson »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #92
epage wrote: post #59

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I feel dirty for saying this but Azure Pipelines is the service that is tempting to me because of the power of its file format (variable substitution, conditionals, template tasks and steps).

Curious if anyone has used Azure Pipelies with Rails projects and has a review. (Yeah, I know, all these CI things are hypothetically platform agnostic, but then there's reality, different platforms-under-test have different sorts of problems which become priorities for the CI platform to smooth out and make just work, or don't).

I think that you want somebody who's unbiased to answer this from their perspective (I'm a PM for Azure DevOps, so I'm pretty biased). But I've built out Azure Pipelines for many platforms, including Ruby and RoR with a lot of success. Feel free to drop me an email (my HN username @microsoft.com) and I can point you to some pipelines.

Re: Travis CI acquired by Idera

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Post by dschep »

iamed2 wrote: post #27
dschep wrote: post #25

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I've actually seen (and need to do so myself) a few migrate to(or move even more into) Travis because they've added Windows builds. AFAIK they're the only hosted CI that offers Linux, Mac, AND Windows builders.

Azure Pipelines was the first one, and would probably have a better service overall if they had better documentation and supported more languages/environments.

Ah, I'll have to check it out
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