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Re: Google gives Wikimedia millions

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Post by Retric » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 3:13 PM UTC

circlefavshape wrote: post #100

Retric wrote: post #92

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Wikipedia’s fund us banners go to Wikimedia, which then spends a small fraction of that on Wikipedia. Calling them separate is at best a shell game, but more realistically actively deceptive. Allowing public edits is different from not paying editors. They can have a small staff of super users which only revert or remove content while remaining a Wiki.

> Calling them separate is at best a shell game, but more realistically actively deceptive. It's neither. The volunteer community is wikipedia, and the foundation exists to serve it, not the other way around. If the foundation paid staff members to edit there would be uproar in the community

Your right and left hands are not separate organisms.

Also, if every volunteer quit tomorrow the website could still function, even if just by disabling edits until they employ enough people to review them. So, it’s clearly not the volunteers that are most critical.

Re: Google gives Wikimedia millions

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Post by strainer » Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 6:09 PM UTC

paradoxparalax wrote: post #97

paradoxparalax wrote: post #96

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Re: Google gives Wikimedia millions

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Post by lern_too_spel » Fri, Jan 25, 2019, 3:50 AM UTC

rmc wrote: post #99

lern_too_spel wrote: post #95

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> Apple uses OSM data in many parts of the world where their own mapping efforts will likely never reach. And contributes nothing to those, instead opting to build their own maps in the important markets.

Apple does pay people to make edits to OSM: https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/

Only in markets where it matters, which means they will stop making those edits after they replace OSM with their own maps.

Re: Google gives Wikimedia millions

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Post by ykevinator » Fri, Jan 25, 2019, 12:25 PM UTC

mattigames wrote: post #20

ykevinator wrote: post #11

On the same day taxpayers gave millions to Google https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autonomous-waymo/waymo-sa...

8 million is peanuts compared to the cost that self-driving has had for google and that cost will only increase until successful, and if that happens it will save thousands of lives (mostly because it can't get drunk, it's mood-less and respects speed limits)

I'm pro self driving car, just saying it's absurd to give taxpayer money to Google (Amazon, etc.)

Re: Google gives Wikimedia millions

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Post by mattigames » Sun, Jan 27, 2019, 12:58 AM UTC

ykevinator wrote: post #104

mattigames wrote: post #20

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8 million is peanuts compared to the cost that self-driving has had for google and that cost will only increase until successful, and if that happens it will save thousands of lives (mostly because it can't get drunk, it's mood-less and respects speed limits)

I'm pro self driving car, just saying it's absurd to give taxpayer money to Google (Amazon, etc.)

8 million is not enough to buy a single tank for the military, and they buy hundreds of those; if wasting taxpayers is your concern you looking at the wrong places.