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Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by tomnipotent »

hnmonkey wrote: post #95
tomnipotent wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> rather expensive at $199 Compared to a six-figure salary? Developers tools are a bargain for what we get out of them.

Yes, for some $200 is still a very non-trivial amount of money to spend on something. If your situation makes this a no-brainer for you, you're in a better spot than many that make 6 figures.

Tell that to mechanics, carpenters, or any other number of professions that are expected to buy their own tools or do so for security outside of an employer. Still a bargain.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by crumpets »

neosavvy wrote: post #65
crazysim wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$90 individual https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/buy/#edition=personal But you're probably right.

If you are a student it's free. Also good tools are worth paying for, I have been a subscription user of their tools now for years. I think it's like $199 for a subscription to the whole suite. If you are a dev (or work for someone who expects you to do dev work for pay) it's worthy spending a few of your coins on good tools. I stare at these tools all darn day, and they rarely if ever crash. I don't regret moving aw…

There are tons of tools in the open source world that are incredible and free. The assumption that you have to spend money on tools does not apply to software at all unless you are working in a proprietary ecosystem.

What is the paid version of grep/ripgrep that works better?

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by FooBadDev »

tomnipotent wrote: post #76
yumraj wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps, but DBeaver is free while Datagrid is not, in fact it is rather expensive at $199. For many people, including me perhaps, something like DBeaver is good enough since it's free.

> rather expensive at $199 Compared to a six-figure salary? Developers tools are a bargain for what we get out of them.

For developers in some countries, that's half their monthly income. Please don't think from only a US perspective.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by crawrey »

neosavvy wrote: post #57

How is no one talking about https://www.jetbrains.com/datagrip/ These guys actually fix their bugs. It works on every database known to humans, and also does nearly everything DBeaver appears to do.

DataGrip is great.

My previous workplace used to be locked into the Microsoft ecosystem and the core legacy product was backed onto a Microsoft SQL Server DB.

Over the years we pushed the business to move away from the MS/Windows ecosystem. When this happened, like many others, I looked for a UNIX compatible DB client that supported SQL Server.

First, I tried SQuirreL[1] and it was horrible. I just had to uninstall it and keep looking. I settled on DBeaver for a while as it has some nice features and it did most of the things I needed it to, but it was not particularly polished.

Eventually the business decided to pay for Jetbrain's All Products package which includes DataGrip and from my experience you could say: Eclipse is to IntelliJ IDEA what DBeaver is to DataGrip.

The other product I was looking closely at was Navicat for SQL Server[2], which looks pretty damn good and those who use it seem to swear by it. However, I am not a DBA and for that reason I can't justify the USD$699 personal licence price tag of Navicat.

DataGrip is not perfect, but it's pretty damn close and I think its price tag is well justified.

1. http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/

2. https://www.navicat.com/en/store/navicat-for-sqlserver/

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by chinhodado »

rsyring wrote: post #64

I can't believe how hard it is to find a good database client tool that runs on Linux. I spent hours on Sunday looking for something that worked as well as pgadmin3. I don't prefer these Java tools that force you to manage JDBC drivers and usually share dated and cluttered UIs. Plus, I can't stand having to manage connections to each database instead of to each server. Let me connect to the server and then select my…

> PgAdmin4 > - installed, couldn’t get past the splash screen which said it couldn’t find the application server

That was my experience as well. pgAdmin 4 is such a shit show.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by vanous »

pedrocx486 wrote: post #99
40four wrote: post #89

I stared using Dbeaver a couple months ago, after looking around for an alternative to HeidiSQL on my Windows 10 laptop at work. Used HeidiSQl for a long time but got fed up with issues with it freezing or crashing, especially when switching DB connections. Dbeaver has been fantastic! Has some feautures Heidi didn't have, very stable & better looking UI. Thumbs up from me, definitely worth giving a try!

Nice to see someone that used HeidiSQL. I'm on the same boat. It feels like an abandoned project. I guess it's finally time to install DBeaver and say goodbye to Heidi.

Thanks for mentioning this, I will also give DBeaver a shot instead of HeidiSql

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by freedomben »

nerdponx wrote: post #93
meddlepal wrote: post #87

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Developers are hands down one of the cheapest group of customers to deal with. I've been shelling out for IntelliJ Ultimate for years because I want to support JetBrains. At this point I think I could actually get away with just the open source Community Edition, but it's worth paying them for the effort in my mind.

Is it common to buy your own tools in other skilled trades (when you aren't a freelancer)? I don't mind buying good software, but it feels weird for me to pay in order to make my employer more money. It's not like the productivity boost I get from buying Datagrip is going to get me a raise or a better job. That said, for software I use in my personal life I can and do pay, and I think we should all be more in the hab…

> Is it common to buy your own tools in other skilled trades (when you aren't a freelancer)?

I can't speak broadly, but when I worked construction, most guys would bring a mix of personal tools and company tools.

Re: Dbeaver – Multi-platform database tool

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Post by thejosh »

crumpets wrote: post #102
neosavvy wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are a student it's free. Also good tools are worth paying for, I have been a subscription user of their tools now for years. I think it's like $199 for a subscription to the whole suite. If you are a dev (or work for someone who expects you to do dev work for pay) it's worthy spending a few of your coins on good tools. I stare at these tools all darn day, and they rarely if ever crash. I don't regret moving aw…

There are tons of tools in the open source world that are incredible and free. The assumption that you have to spend money on tools does not apply to software at all unless you are working in a proprietary ecosystem. What is the paid version of grep/ripgrep that works better?

>good tools are worth paying for

Not ALL tools need to be paid for.

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