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Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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Post by throwawaymath »

Kiro wrote: post #100
throwawaymath wrote: post #83

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Wait, really? I thought DuckDuckGo merely implemented APIs ("bangs") to fallback search engine providers in case a user preferred it. Surely DuckDuckGo has implemented their own search engine, crawler and indexer apart from other providers?

> Surely DuckDuckGo has implemented their own search engine, crawler and indexer apart from other providers? No. They have their own crawler but it's only used for Instant Answers and other widget stuff. https://duck.co/help/results/sources > In fact, DuckDuckGo gets its results from over four hundred sources. These include hundreds of vertical sources delivering niche Instant Answers, DuckDuckBot (our crawler) and c…

But then what's the point?

EDIT: This is an honest question, not snark. I'd appreciate an honest answer instead of a blind drive-by downvote. I don't learn anything about why a thin UI layer over a bunch of search engines I can access directly is useful for privacy if you just downvote my comment.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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Post by s1mon »

clairity wrote: post #42
reaperducer wrote: post #19

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It's regional. For a long time (in internet time), Apple Maps were clearly inferior to Google Maps. These days, it's more nuanced. In some geographies they have parity. In a select few, Apple is ahead. For most, though, Google is better. For speed and privacy reasons, I check Apple Maps first. If I don't find what I'm looking for, then I go to Google Maps and follow up by force-quitting Google Maps when I'm done.

where do you think apple maps is better than google? google maps is the only google service i still use on a regular basis because it's clearly better than apple maps for me (california mostly). apple maps is ok for simple use cases like finding a known business, but an ambiguous search on google maps is almost always better, as is their routing. i'd love to find a better mapping service for these more complicated us…

In the SF Bay area, they are generally on par depending on what features or points of interest you want to find. Some locales are shockingly different. Shenzhen China is much much better on Apple (Google and Bing show roads in the river - completely misaligned) but Shanghai is almost useless on Apple, but very detailed on Google (assuming you can even get to Google in China).

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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Post by SEJeff »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #48
gowld wrote: post #41

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DDG's main marketing model is talking about how they believe Google is privacy threat, so they'll highlight that angle in any change.

Or Apple's marketing team lead to a donation to DDG to make it possible

That and from a purely data privacy angle, Apple is legitimately better than Google.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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Post by lukeqsee »

jethro_tell wrote: post #94
betolink wrote: post #66

I'm looking forward to the day that privacy and convenience are mainstream again(if there were ever). This feature is a right step on that direction.

They were using an open source map company, not google maps. By that standard, I feel this is probably a privacy regression. I'm looking forward to the day when people know what they are talking about.

> They were using an open source map company, not google maps. By that standard, I feel this is probably a privacy regression.

I'm not sure this is a fair comparison. Open source is not the same as privacy-friendly.

Apple makes privacy a core-tenet of their product. I do not see the same stance from Mapbox.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

wil421 wrote: post #69
sveme wrote: post #20

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What‘s your country? Using Apple Maps all the time in Germany and found it to be actually better than Google Maps (though with a tendency to reroute around traffic more often than Google Maps used to do).

Is Apple Maps good with public transit? I used Google maps in and around Stuttgart and Munich. It worked extremely well. Google Maps was extremely good with public transport in NYC but Apple Maps was not. Where I live but the Southern US Apple Maps is almost as good as Google Maps. Public Transport isn’t quite as good with Apple maps in my city.

I've found Apple Maps to usually be terrific with public transit -- with the caveat that they don't have transit data for nearly as many cities as Google does. For a while I considered Apple to be slightly ahead of Google, as Apple's system could tell you which exit from transit stations to take when you were walking/transferring, although I believe Google's caught up with that since.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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Post by jhall1468 »

st3fan wrote: post #88
NicoJuicy wrote: post #48

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Or Apple's marketing team lead to a donation to DDG to make it possible

Why does the glass always have to be half empty? Maybe Apple simply was the better choice?

DDG's entire schtick was privacy and they are switching from open data + commercial sources to a commercial company.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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Post by taf2 »

SEJeff wrote: post #104
NicoJuicy wrote: post #48

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Or Apple's marketing team lead to a donation to DDG to make it possible

That and from a purely data privacy angle, Apple is legitimately better than Google.

Are they or do you just believe that because of what you think you know about the difference between the two companies?
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