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Social networks are no longer social

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Re: Social networks are no longer social

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I mean there's still Reddit, the chans, forums, etc, with a lot of activity, if you want to live those days again.

Reddit is quickly heading down the same path as Facebook. Especially with the new design.

Maybe design-wise, but the principles such as pseudonymity haven’t changed and that’s far more important in the long run.

Re: Social networks are no longer social

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Reddit is quickly heading down the same path as Facebook. Especially with the new design.

Yep, just waiting for the day I can no longer opt out. Feels like it’s coming soon. Boy those ad designs on the new layout sure are starting to look like regular posts. I’m sure it won’t get any worse, right?

The ads say “PROMOTED” in capital blue letters and Adblockers still work. Is it really so bad?

Re: Social networks are no longer social

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I vote we return to the age of late Geocities, forums, and early blogs. Less conformity in design, less "social" by modern definition, but more people who just liked one topic enough to build something about it and communities forming around them.

The thing is, there's plenty of room on the web for both, and always has been, but people seem to only want one or the other.

It's more of an internet culture change. People used to be more into making and curating their own little corner of the web and that's how the early internet felt. Now everyone gathers at the garden between the walls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect

Re: Social networks are no longer social

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Can you explain ‘extra’ in this context? #oldfart

Too much to handle; over the top; not worth the effort. Synonyms: ratchet, trifling.

I don't think extra is a synonym of ratchet. Ratchet is a mostly-sexist way of saying "trashy".

Re: Social networks are no longer social

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The article mentions of days when you were anonymous, getting to know strangers through common interests and exchanging ideas. I do miss those early days. For me, social network stopped being social as soon as reasonable assurance of anonymity when out the window once companies started pressuring people use their real identity, and that became the norm.

The article mentions of days when you were anonymous It's funny how in the early days of the internet, everyone was so open and honest about who they are that it was very common for their e-mail messages, Usenet posts, finger plans, etc... to have their real names, home and/or work addresses, and home and/or work phone numbers. Then the scammers discovered the internet, and everyone had to dummy up about who they are…

Lol. That is the best summary I’ve seen. A systematic escalation of scamming.

Re: Social networks are no longer social

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> some interesting, organic, and human ways to bring our social lives online. Let me introduce you to The Private Group Chat where 90% of online social activity happens between people under 30. It’s rrally quite fascinating. It’s everything Google+ wanted to be, but totally organic, apread over dozens of chat apps and services, and without the big brother oversight.

This is a really good point and something an over-30 like yours truly would have an easy time missing even as it happened around us (my most meaningful groups are now distributed over WhatsApp, Slack, and good 'ol email). Happen to know any sources quantifying this phenomenon?

> Happen to know any sources quantifying this phenomenon?

Perhaps the best answer you can get here is "no." That's exactly what the privacy advocates would want to hear, yet the phenomenon is very real.

I'm in my mid-30s but almost all of my social networking with younger colleagues/friends is done via ephemeral group chats (Snapchat) and Signal. I keep a business Twitter and personal Facebook like everyone else, but any substantial communication is moved offline to encrypted and less-trackable methods.

The younger crowd figured out how to use the encryption technologies we've been wondering how everyone will adopt all while we've been missing it. Are they perfect implementations? No. But a lot better than what standard communication looked like years ago.

Re: Social networks are no longer social

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Facebook described in 50 years: a network where real world relationships were gamified and users competed for popularity. The network eventually died because the relationships it represented became meaningless in the eyes of its users, and the perceived value of the "game" fell to virtually zero.

Meaningless at best. For some users the relationships and one-upmanship is detrimental to their mental/emotional wellbeing.

Why would people think that this is unique to Facebook? For a lot of people, relationships and one-upmanship is detrimental to their mental state... offline.

Re: Social networks are no longer social

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I think that developers can safely migrate to communities such as Hashnode instead of wasting their time scrolling through numerous groups on Facebook. All the features are already there without the tracking system in place.

Any idea what software hashnode is running on? I like the features.

I'm looking to setup a private community and I'm not totally stoked on the features of mastodon and diaspora and I'm not exactly looking for a forum.

I suppose this could be an AskHN...

Re: Social networks are no longer social

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But what does it mean to be "social"? I've been thinking about this alot lately and it's not easy to define. But social media's version of social is making me more and more uncomfortable. I have so many unfinished thoughts around this but here goes..

I can say that a good social experience is usually in a very small group, dynamic, immersive, thrilling, you can feel it in your entire body, you loose your sense of time. On some social media the interactions are relatively slow, shallow, fragmented, in some sense performative because you know potentially alot of people can read what you're posting. It's like a totally different kind of social, which of course can have it's value but it becomes a problem when most of our social interactions are like this.

Take the experience of sharing your vacation pictures. On social media it is like you are packaging your memory to present for a broader audience. Imagine, in contrast, how you would invite your friend over and share your (printed) pictures over a coffee. Depending on what your relationship looks like you will present your trip differently. This shared memory will be woven into your relationship in a unique way, giving it yet another layer.

It's like the word social has been hijacked. It was never about making a "social media". It was about changing our idea about what social means..

Re: Social networks are no longer social

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File this under design anti-patterns: scroll to the bottom of the article and Techcrunch sends you to their front page.

"Increasing engagement" is probably a KPI in nearly every consumer-facing product these days. And as time goes on, it becomes more obvious, desperate, and frankly, annoying. Like when I receive FB notifications since I haven't posted in awhile. Really de-values the functionality of what a notification is, and now I don't care about them much since receiving a notification doesn't mean I've had an interaction with a FB Friend.
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