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Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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I can picture a future android release scanning the galleries on phones and deleting photos that violate Googles ToS.

I can see this being driven by some combination of moral panic over teen sexting and FOSTA. Or the creepy version: photo app "oversight" that automatically notifies someone else (parent, abusive controlling partner) if nudity is detected in a camera photo.

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Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can picture a future android release scanning the galleries on phones and deleting photos that violate Googles ToS.

I can see this being driven by some combination of moral panic over teen sexting and FOSTA. Or the creepy version: photo app "oversight" that automatically notifies someone else (parent, abusive controlling partner) if nudity is detected in a camera photo.

If I was the parent of a teenager I would pay good to have this.

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The suppression of the viewing of the human body in its natural form, especially in art, is one of the deepest perversions of society. It seems so intrinsically tied to the suppression and control of pleasure by institutions seeking dominance over human life. When you control access to the natural pleasures of life, you have control over the motivations and operations of that life. In prior times, when religions were…

But you also understand their motivation, right? They don't want any boycott campaigns and protests from the loud minority, both inside the company and outside of it.

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I take this as the best explanation why Reddit is pushing its app so hard, even though it has a one of the most visited websites in the world. It's not about user engagement with content. It's about user engagement with ads.

Indeed. A lot of work has been put into degrading the mobile experience with banners and prompts and delays to force users onto the app. Sensible people use BaconReader, but I wonder how long that will be allowed to continue.

Are there in fact forced delays? Couldn't be sure it it was my connection or js bloat.

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I know you write this in jest, but the problem is that when Germans talk purely to other Germans on Facebook, they still have to do so according to American cultural standards. I can stage a protest on the street outside here in Melbourne and the social rules, expectations and conventions that I am subject to are Australian. But there’s no equivalent online - if I organise that protest with other Australians on FB or…

I agree with almost everything you wrote but... it's easy for me to see almost no connection between viewing violence and people commiting violent behavior. It's much easier for me to see a connection between sexy media and sexual behavior with consequences like teen pregnancy and STDs. I watch a violent movie yet I don't want to commit violent acts after. I watch a sexy movie and I do start to desire to have sex. it…

> it's easy for me to see almost no connection between viewing violence and people commiting violent behavior.

You've been tangoed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV8zGNe7Ebg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Man_(advertisement)

> The advertisement features an orange man slapping a Tango drinker across the cheeks, a wacky metaphor for tasting Tango, and was intended as a reaction against the norm of "cause and effect" television advertising at the time was largely focused on scenarios where peoples lives were improved by the product being advertised. Orange Man caused controversy after reports of injuries when children began copying the events of the advertisement in school playgrounds, and was subsequently banned, with two other versions of Orange Man replacing it, both showing different scenarios aside from slapping.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Dear corporations, As an european adult, I'm ok with adult and explicit content. Leave art alone.

As a Flemish/Belgian museum try to post some historical Flemish Baroque paintings or statues on Facebook or a Google platform... For our clients that is a real problem. The irony is that you will a lot of those "explicit content" hanging or being displayed in Catholic Churches all over Europe so it has nothing to do with religion but only extreme (American) puritanism.

The Holy See should make an app containing every nude Michelangelo ever painted on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. I'd love to see the headline, "Vatican banned from the Play Store."

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Sure, but they're not responding because they're puritan idiots, they're responding because not doing so risks their business. Specifically, they risked being added to European block lists in use by almost all EU ISPs. Of course there are ways around this, but no business wants to tell its users to install Tor Browser Bundle to visit a website.

> not doing so risks their business The response should have been better filters for illegal content, not cutting off "adult" content. (" because in my opinion, there's nothing adulty in a fantasy artwork from the 70s which, the horror, shows both male and female uncovered breasts.)

I'm not saying it's a competent response. I'm saying it's not a response from puritanical idiots.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Dear corporations, As an european adult, I'm ok with adult and explicit content. Leave art alone.

As a Flemish/Belgian museum try to post some historical Flemish Baroque paintings or statues on Facebook or a Google platform... For our clients that is a real problem. The irony is that you will a lot of those "explicit content" hanging or being displayed in Catholic Churches all over Europe so it has nothing to do with religion but only extreme (American) puritanism.

I always wondered how it is possible to be a nation of innovation and still be so idiotically puritanical. Clearly a smart person cannot support this step back into the dark ages of witch hunt.

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In the Tumblr ban threads, people mentioned that all of these companies should simply make their progressive web apps and give the finger to the puritan idiots calling these decisions. I agree. The questions, however, are: how much growth can be achieved without play store/ios app? Is it viable? If yes, how? Can art be more important for a site (and it's investors), than immediate, quick growth?

I don't think they'll want to, if they're ad supported. Adblockers don't run on native apps, and in general apps have better access to relevant ad sell info. A lot of ad supported companies are giving up on the web.

Most people don’t run Adblock on mobile and probably aren’t getting any better ad rates running native ads vs mobile web.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Indeed. A lot of work has been put into degrading the mobile experience with banners and prompts and delays to force users onto the app. Sensible people use BaconReader, but I wonder how long that will be allowed to continue.

Are there in fact forced delays? Couldn't be sure it it was my connection or js bloat.

Every third-party Reddit and Facebook app I've tried has seemed as if it was throttled or blocked.
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