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Re: Google One

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Post by nolok »

codebeaker wrote: post #87
tmoravec wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How on Earth are hotel discounts related to cloud storage?

My guess would be a slow introduction of concierge type services linked into their phone AI thing that they launched 6 months ago to great fanfair, and a general move from software service companies (and my bank.) into offering concierge type services in general.

Banks have been doing concierge for ages, if you're at a "expensive enough" level (and it's not as expensive as one first might assume, my bank offers a full concierge service for 10 000€ / year that's basically "it's 2 am and you want something specific and you're wherever, call this number and we'll find it for you").

I don't think tech companies can compete with that; if you want a concierge on retainer you want a guy you can talk to and explain your weird request. Nobody is paying 10+k a month to get a "barely close enough" answer. I also don't believe that's what they aim.

Instead they intend to go for the "fake concierge, but close enough": tie-ins into all their sub products, in an unified subscription and interface, at a small fraction of the cost. Oh you want an hotel ? We have that. Renting a car ? Buying a musical instrument ? Make a reservation at a restaurant ? Done. Oh, you want that actually unique request that does not get enough volume by month to be a business on its own ? No, we don't do that, but here is the google search results for it.

In other words, I believe Google One aims to play in the same court as Amazon Prime.

Re: Google One

#102

Post by iamben »

I pay 2 quid a month for extra Gmail storage (20gb) and nothing else... Does this get rolled into that?!

Re: Google One

#103

Post by vwelling »

Insanity wrote: post #88

Kind of related, I was recentl thinking about making some backups of valuable (emotionally speaking) things like wedding pictures. Currently they are backed up on my local machine and my server, but was considering cloud options. My wife does use Google Drive (paid account w/ Chromebook) but I don't feel that comfortable with Google things. Does anyone have good alternatives that perhaps respect privacy? :)

Quite happy with Backblaze for exactly this reason, as it allows you to set your own private encryption key.

That they're quite reasonably priced doesn't hurt either :)

Re: Google One

#104

Post by piyush_soni »

jstanley wrote: post #80
chillydawg wrote: post #76

Can I pay more to stop Google advertising to me and collecting my data? They can keep their HDD space.

Yes, you can buy your own hard disks and not use Google.

This is actually a valid use case and some of my friends desire exactly that from them - i.e., all Google's smarts, without the tracking part (for individuals). I think they'll find a lot of customers willing to pay a good amount for that.

Re: Google One

#105

Post by royal_ts »

sascha_sl wrote: post #65
neverminder wrote: post #59

So looking from a single private user's perspective: Google One has best pricing, but no Linux native client and Dropbox has Linux native client and no flexible pricing.

Funny enough, all options almost exactly match Apple pricing. Apple: 50GB for 0.99 200GB for 2.99 2TB for 9.99 Google: 100GB for 1.99 200GB for 2.99 2TB for 9.99

afaik they run their Cloud Stuff on Google too

Re: Google One

#106

Post by nolok »

aaaaaaaaaab wrote: post #86
bad_user wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily. Many people pay for 2 TB without actually needing 2 TB. I currently pay for Dropbox Pro, which has 2 TB of space available, but I'm only using 300 GB. I'm pretty sure that at this point people going over 500 GB are a tiny minority. When you pay for 30 TB on the other hand, you probably need it, so their actual cost might be reflected well in that price. This is basically the long tail effect, so when…

Lol, I would just buy multiple 2 TB subscriptions from different accounts.

So if your main use of space is original quality pictures in google photos like me you basically can't use them ?

Re: Google One

#107

Post by Gnurou »

Insanity wrote: post #88

Kind of related, I was recentl thinking about making some backups of valuable (emotionally speaking) things like wedding pictures. Currently they are backed up on my local machine and my server, but was considering cloud options. My wife does use Google Drive (paid account w/ Chromebook) but I don't feel that comfortable with Google things. Does anyone have good alternatives that perhaps respect privacy? :)

You cannot assume that any remote storage provider will respect your privacy. So you will need to encrypt on your end.

With that in mind, borg backup does a great job at archiving/compressing/encrypting. Then you can sync to GDrive or any other service using e.g. rclone.

Re: Google One

#108

Post by siruncledrew »

pstuart wrote: post #4

That landing page was too busy and did a weak job at selling what "one" was if it's really more than a cheaper drop box. Expert access for $1.99/mo? Huh?

$1.99/mo expert access seems like it could be a valuable selling point to sway older people over to Google One that have never used cloud storage much before. There's still people out there that don't know how to use Dropbox or Google Drive.

Re: Google One

#109

Post by kmlx »

piyush_soni wrote: post #104
jstanley wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you can buy your own hard disks and not use Google.

This is actually a valid use case and some of my friends desire exactly that from them - i.e., all Google's smarts, without the tracking part (for individuals). I think they'll find a lot of customers willing to pay a good amount for that.

GSuite?

Re: Google One

#110

Post by nolok »

comboy wrote: post #92
aaaaaaaaaab wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol, I would just buy multiple 2 TB subscriptions from different accounts.

Services usually offer convenience. If you don't care about it then you can already register on tons of sites with multiple accounts and get vast amounts of free storage. This and they have been working on making many accounts hard for some time now.

> This and they have been working on making many accounts hard for some time now

I disagree with that.

The only "hard" part is stuff that absolutely makes sense during the creation part if you're making several: captcha, not allowing the same phone number to be the recovery for more than ~10 accounts, etc ... It's all very obvious protection against spam/mass registration, and if you are an actual person it takes only a few minutes to get around.

And if you go for paid accounts, all of those limits cease existing.

But beside that, once you have the accounts, it's all very friendly, the multi login where you don't even have to logout / log in other account / logout again / relog in first account, account delegation so you can have a master account with automatic access to others, library (apps, photos, ...) sharing, and all of that is on the free accounts !

It might be far from perfect, but compared to the other big ones Google is very friendly to multi-accounts users.

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