And they both suck. Netflix content is weak. The catalog outside US is terrible. YouTube ads are annoying yet original content is not worth the price for Premium. At a price point of $12 it's ridiculous. Music catalog is sub-par and not worth the switch from Spotify. Both seem to be more dedicated to push PC propaganda than matching what viewers want. Original content is quite bad save for some exceptions (Wild Wild…
> Both seem to be more dedicated to push PC propaganda than matching what viewers want. I agree 100% with the rest of your comment but I genuinely don't understand this claim?
Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube
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As I grew a family my YouTube time went from mostly desktop to almost all phone/tablet. Can't Adblock that stuff. I'm betting lots of people watch YouTube on mobile devices.
I watch YouTube on mobile and adblock works just fine.
I should see how web YouTube mobile compares!
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I'm just amazed somebody can come to this conclusion. 20 years ago you had to go to the shop, buy ONE film for $15 from a limited shelve, bring it back home, put it in a device you bought specifically for that film format and that does only that, navigate through a dubious UI, be forced to watch ads, then eventually get to the film. If you didn't like it... too bad. Now for the same price, you have access to thousand…
Did you try to use Netflix outside of U.S.? It's pathetic.
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I'm just amazed somebody can come to this conclusion. 20 years ago you had to go to the shop, buy ONE film for $15 from a limited shelve, bring it back home, put it in a device you bought specifically for that film format and that does only that, navigate through a dubious UI, be forced to watch ads, then eventually get to the film. If you didn't like it... too bad. Now for the same price, you have access to thousand…
Just because something is better now than in the past does not mean that it cannot be improved. We cannot be placated with what we have but must constantly strive to move forward. That is how human progress is built.
But I noticed that many people were happy with the previous situation, and a lot are not with the new one, despite it being by all objective attributes, better.
I believe the issue here is perception, expectations and ability to enjoy. Not netflix which does an incredible job.
In a world of abundance and lack of attention, the public is bound to be unsatisfied.
It's not sane, IMO, if your brain think it is still hungry when you live in the most amazing all-you-can-eat buffet of all time.
Introspection is in order.
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There are free browser extensions that block ads. The only value add is the premium content.
There are free browser extensions that block ads. Even on mobile?
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> YouTube ads are annoying Just use an adblocker. > Music catalog is sub-par and not worth the switch from Spotify. Youtube has virtually every song ever made for free, a much larger catalog than Spotify. I can't think of anything that's on Spotify but isn't on Youtube. I never understood why people pay for Spotify subscriptions.
YouTube music quality is shit. You're watching a compressed video with music in it.
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Just because something is better now than in the past does not mean that it cannot be improved. We cannot be placated with what we have but must constantly strive to move forward. That is how human progress is built.
Of course. But I noticed that many people were happy with the previous situation, and a lot are not with the new one, despite it being by all objective attributes, better. I believe the issue here is perception, expectations and ability to enjoy. Not netflix which does an incredible job. In a world of abundance and lack of attention, the public is bound to be unsatisfied. It's not sane, IMO, if your brain think it is…
Put differently, I've worked for several streamers. One of them explicitly mentions its small library as a feature. Just 30 films, so you will not spend twenty minutes looking for something to watch. Those 20 minutes are a feature and Netflix is worse than many DVD shops were in that respect.
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> if it's filled up with watching youtube videos it can't be filled up watching netflix... Correct. And that's pretty convenient for Netflix' bottom line if that person is paying the monthly fee, but using only, say, a quarter of the netflix bandwidth of a heavy user. The modeling to figure all this out is a lot more complex than just "are they watching?"-"are they not watching?". We need access to Netflix' internal…
You constantly assume bandwidth is a big concern for Netflix.
For instance, if you try to license certain types of content, you'll find that the licenses will tend to work in the following fashion:
-Estimate how many people will use content. -Resolve differences, if any, between your estimate and content owner's estimate. -Settle on per user fee.
Then there are other licenses that are kind of pseudo per user. For instance:
-How many people tix to your last tour Mr or Ms Comedian? -Well Mr Digital Property Licensing Hardass, we sold X tix. -Great!!! We'll give you X dollars because we know from analytics that (factor * X) people will view your content over the life of this license.
These things are a lot more complicated than just "Are people watching?" - "Are people not watching?".
Likely Youtube can do things like weigh bandwidth costs heavier in their models, therefore prioritizing eyeballs. Any eyeballs, because they make money from ads. You try to run something like Netflix using the same modeling factors and you'll go under in fairly short order. There are just a lot more expenses, and the revenue is from a source with a different behavior. So you don't want eyeballs, you want the right eyeballs for the content that you've paid to provide. That means you need to be cold, hard, and calculating. Not every viewer will be equally profitable to you.
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Of course. But I noticed that many people were happy with the previous situation, and a lot are not with the new one, despite it being by all objective attributes, better. I believe the issue here is perception, expectations and ability to enjoy. Not netflix which does an incredible job. In a world of abundance and lack of attention, the public is bound to be unsatisfied. It's not sane, IMO, if your brain think it is…
It's not better by all objective attributes. The attributes that have improved may be the most important ones (and God how I hated those FBI warnings), but Netflix customers complain about two things: Time spent browsing the library, and that they're unhappy with what they actually select (which is obviously partly their choice, partly Netflix' UI). Put differently, I've worked for several streamers. One of them expl…
It's still miles better than going to rent a VHS in a mall.
It's still miles better than buying a DVD online.
It's still miles better than having to download the movie on eMule.
And you do have a small library sample on netflix. It's your front page.
Now people either complain there is nothing to watch (front page not interesting anymore after a while), or too much too watch (the size of the entire lib is overwhelming).
Wait, what ?
Besides, honestly, when you have a full life, where do you get the time to exhaust the netflix offer ? How many hours of video a week must you consume to arrive at a stage where "there is nothing to watch on netflix" ? Because in that case, not only the $15 have been paid for a 1000 times, but also, again, the problem is clearly not netflix.
Which remains me I'm spending too much time on NH today, so, gotta go :)