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Is it just me or is it ironic that the reason for cancelling is environmental impact, when the tunnel would help alleviate congestion and smog due to gasoline-powered traffic?
My dad used to work in local government and likes to call the automatic opposition, "People united against anything." Today we call them NIMBYs. California has empowered them in peculiar and powerful ways, as anyone, anywhere, can challenge any project under the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), which actually supersedes the national version (NEQA).
And yet development should take the environment into consideration because it can have massive consequences. Those consequences are ultimately an externality of the development project and evaluating it in advance can help inform the true financials of the project.
well, im not sure where this tunnel would be located BUT if he was digging under my $500,000-1,000,000 residential house (or whatever the prices there are) or my commercial property i sure as hell would sue the billionaire all the way to the bank as well. For him its just "playing games" oh let me dig a tunnel so i can skip the traffic on MY way to work. For me - its my livelihood - house is a single biggest purchase…
Why would you live in a place where people have to approve what you want to do with your property?
Why doesn't Musk take his business elsewhere where he's welcome? I can imagine LA being a nightmare for this sort of project. He needs a place where bureaucracy is thinner and people are actually excited about everything new.
My dad used to work in local government and likes to call the automatic opposition, "People united against anything." Today we call them NIMBYs. California has empowered them in peculiar and powerful ways, as anyone, anywhere, can challenge any project under the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), which actually supersedes the national version (NEQA).
And yet development should take the environment into consideration because it can have massive consequences. Those consequences are ultimately an externality of the development project and evaluating it in advance can help inform the true financials of the project.
Where is the environmental assessment on NIMBY-ism I wonder? :/
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IMO his greatest accomplishment by far is Space X, from an engineering perspective it's the one that seems the most impressive and hardest to achieve. Tesla is impressive but it seems more like the success of a vision, making electric cars look cool and inspirational, not "like a real car but eco-friendly and boring". Technologically speaking are they really ahead of the competition? Meanwhile the Boring company and…
The tunnels are smaller, so they're allegedly significantly cheaper, and the narrow diameter is compensated for with automation.
My dad used to work in local government and likes to call the automatic opposition, "People united against anything." Today we call them NIMBYs. California has empowered them in peculiar and powerful ways, as anyone, anywhere, can challenge any project under the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA), which actually supersedes the national version (NEQA).
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> traffic that would be removed from the roads (and by extension, the pollution) I don't understand how any pollution would be removed, just because it's now in tunnels doesn't equal it being gone. Wouldn't it just be blasted back out through the ventilation system? Or were there plans to build some kind of "pollution scrubbing" into those?
I think the tunnels would run electric cars/trains only.
For those not familiar with LA's private property rights, they are some of the strictest in the nation. The 710 freeway, originally designed and intended to go all the way from long beach to pasadena, has successfully been litigated for fifty years to prevent it from ever doing so. heavy truck traffic has to exit to surface streets to continue to the city or route around it using the 101. trucks are prohibited on the…
Maybe this understates the wealth level of South Pasadena, which would have been significantly affected by that final leg of the 710. South Pasadena is relatively well off compared to many other areas of the county, has a good school district, some rather nice craftsman era homes, a little bit of old money, attractive retail zones, convenient location to downtown, nice hillside geography, etc.
Though not Beverly Hills or Santa Monica, South Pasadena is an independent city with a largely middle to upper middle class population. So, in a way, it's not surprising that it succeeded in killing that final leg of the 710.
Personally, I wish the 710 had been completed. It would have benefited a lot of people.
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Your cities are very sparsely populated to be cost effective with rail.
LA already has a pretty large rail network. Problem is when they try to build new subways it takes many many years to go even a mile and is met with the same lawsuits Elon faced. Fact is, California culture wants it but doesn’t want it at the same time.
That applies to every culture, ever, and I have a hard time identifying some "California culture" that encompasses the state. The difference is that in California, the people who don't want it largely outnumber the people who want it more than in most places.