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One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

#101

Clickbait garbage: According to Alexa the site is ranked as the 209,334 most visited site in the world, and the 3,945 most popular site in The Netherlands.

Yes, but the article makes clear that the content is spread across many different .TLDs (possible reasons for this are offered in the article) which combine for 100 million monthly page-views.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

#102

Clickbait garbage: According to Alexa the site is ranked as the 209,334 most visited site in the world, and the 3,945 most popular site in The Netherlands.

I was asking myself if the intention is to state that it's one of the website nobody knows most visited one (in the list of website nobody knows) or just pure clickbait.

As the first possibility is impossible to nkow (if nobody knows about them...), I agree with you and vote clickbait !

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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post #38

Here is the real question everybody should ask themselves: In today’s world, Why do I try to work honestly for a dollar?

Extracted from a (french) song and roughly translated :

In life, son, you have two choices : you work or make money

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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post #6

> According to another source, a public address book at locatefamily.com, someone under the name Vladimir S. Nesterenko is living at [REDACTED] in Moscow. Vladimir lives according to Google Streetview it’s an apartment complex far away from the Moscow city center... Really? Someone investigating with journalists, and may be considered a journalists themselves (?), actually publishes the address of someone that they a…

It's extremely likely that this person isn't responsible for the website, or knows anything about it. Criminal or shady activities in Russia (and everywhere else) are often laundered through cutouts. You can find an example of this in "Magnitsky act: behind the scenes" where Bill Browder allegedly laundered his corporate holdings for tax fraud through various handicapped people, and eventually gangsters who were conv…

If this were a criminal enterprise I'd agree with you, but I can imagine any of us putting together a document scraping/resource website and not having any qualms about it. It's pretty cheap to buy the obfuscation service when you register domains, he probably did not have a lot of money when he started.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

#105

Why would a Russian individual host his, rather shady, operation in the smack dab middle of Germany, and not somewhere in eastern Europe? Why would an individual like that, who goes through the effort of obfuscating Google analytics code, leave the domain registry information out in the open like that? Imho none of this really adds up, the whole setup seems to be quite complex and sophisticated, I have a hard time be…

That's easy to answer, people are not as smart and/or professional as you think they should be. They can even do some smart things but be completely ignorant in others.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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post #38

Here is the real question everybody should ask themselves: In today’s world, Why do I try to work honestly for a dollar?

It's a very important question. IMO we should be most mindful of our work and moneymaking since we spend most of our waking life doing these things.

When we are dishonest in our moneymaking, we are probably creating unnecessary suffering for others. That's enough reason for some.

IMO it also feels easier to love and be loved (e.g. by friends, family, your children, etc.) if you are honest in your dealings with others.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

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post #17

I read through the article and I’m baffled. I couldn’t watch the news video or understand what was going on at the bottom of the post... but were news outlets and the government involved for a site that’s skimming PDFs, hosting them and then slapping on ads? This isn’t something new and if I recall correctly SlideShare did the same thing to grow to where they are today. Is it legal, I don’t know, but these types of s…

From the article: "Multiple tax files of Dutch citizens had been published via www.docplayer.nl" I don't speak or read Dutch, so I couldn't watch the video clip, but my guess is these tax files contained important and sensitive information. They were probably scraped from a government website.

They probably did, but someone made the mistake to put them somewhere where they were publicly available. Also the "russian" made tools available for taking down the content, tools which according to the article were working in an effective and timely manner.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

#108
post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the impression ATM that copyright infringement is legal as long as nobody complains. When one person complains or files a DMCA takedown notice, no problem, it gets taken down. It needs to be a big company's documents - like Elsevier or (in the Bittorrent era) music publishers - before a major legal action is undertaken to take a site offline. TL;DR it's not a crime if nobody complains. Now that someone complain…

> I get the impression ATM that copyright infringement is legal as long as nobody complains. Copyright infringement is never legal. Yes, it's often not enforced until someone complains, but there is a difference between enforcement and legality. > TL;DR it's not a crime if nobody complains. It is a crime even if nobody complains, you're just not getting caught or reprimanded. It is possible to hurt someone without ge…

Doesn't the owner first have to claim copy rights on the content for it to be illegal?

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

#109

Why would a Russian individual host his, rather shady, operation in the smack dab middle of Germany, and not somewhere in eastern Europe? Why would an individual like that, who goes through the effort of obfuscating Google analytics code, leave the domain registry information out in the open like that? Imho none of this really adds up, the whole setup seems to be quite complex and sophisticated, I have a hard time be…

Mules are a possible answer. I don't buy it either.

Re: One of the world’s most visited websites that nobody is aware of (2017)

#110

Ready, set, go! Let's see how many scrapers HN readers will build now to try to copy this "business" model.

There's more to it then scraping. I would love a deep dive on how he/she was able to get page rank for the sites. Usually these people employ black hat SEO that works for while, but eventually fails when Google updates their ranking algorithm. I always wondered if there are sites that could game the system indefinably. Exactly the kind of info you don't announce on black hat SEO forums.
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