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Re: Linux on Dex

#101

Post by H4CK3RM4N »

j45 wrote: post #94
Jaruzel wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> DEX opens a door for next generation Mobile Desktop , where you SmartPhone is also your Desktop Computer. Remember, Microsoft tried this with Continuum for Windows 8/10 and Windows Mobile, it failed. No-one actually wanted the core of their desktop inside their phones. People have partitioned off different use-cases for their PC and smartphones, and the overlap is smaller than designers think.

It wasn't that no one wanted them - they just weren't powerful or portable enough. Snapdragon's 835 changed that. So will the A12X from Apple.

I think you’re underestimating Apple’s chip performance. Going by https://browser.geekbench.com/ the best performing Android devices(Samsung’s special thing for single-core, Snapdragon 845 in a OnePlus for multi-core) appear around even with an A10 for single-core and an A10X with multi-core. If this/last year’s Android chips were enough to make Dex viable, you’d expect last generation’s iPad Pro and the iPhone 7 to be capable of running Apple’s solution.

Re: Linux on Dex

#102

Post by MentallyRetired »

tinyvm wrote: post #18

This is really cool. I've been looking for such thing for a long time now. If you have a corporate Job like consulting or something equivalent it's very likely you are packing an awful laptop with you everywhere you go, a DELL or a Lenovo or something like that. DEX opens a door for next generation Mobile Desktop , where you SmartPhone is also your Desktop Computer. I really hope Apple does something similar in this…

I've been waiting for this for over a year. I got a note 8, a dex dock and everything...

And it requires a note 9. Sunnuva.

Re: Linux on Dex

#103

Post by wolfgke »

rogerbinns wrote: post #41
tinyvm wrote: post #18

This is really cool. I've been looking for such thing for a long time now. If you have a corporate Job like consulting or something equivalent it's very likely you are packing an awful laptop with you everywhere you go, a DELL or a Lenovo or something like that. DEX opens a door for next generation Mobile Desktop , where you SmartPhone is also your Desktop Computer. I really hope Apple does something similar in this…

Also consider Chromebooks. You get the desktop version of Chrome (ie whatever extensions you want), windowed interface, runs Android apps, and via the rapidly maturing Crostini project you can also run Linux apps. Heck on Intel based Chromebooks you can run Steam and use Proton/SteamPlay to run Windows games (and other Windows apps). The nicest thing about the Chromebooks is that the software is identical, but the ha…

> Also consider Chromebooks.

Because of their dependence on Google servers, Chromebooks (or using any cloud-based service) make it very hard to satisfy confidentiality requirements that are imposed by clients for consulting jobs.

Re: Linux on Dex

#104

Post by wolfgke »

gcb0 wrote: post #70
Jaruzel wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> DEX opens a door for next generation Mobile Desktop , where you SmartPhone is also your Desktop Computer. Remember, Microsoft tried this with Continuum for Windows 8/10 and Windows Mobile, it failed. No-one actually wanted the core of their desktop inside their phones. People have partitioned off different use-cases for their PC and smartphones, and the overlap is smaller than designers think.

we still need the pc revolution on mobile devices. we are still in the mainframe/timeshare stage.

> we still need the pc revolution on mobile devices.

The PC revolution happened because of very open hardware specifications and a non-monopoly on the firmware (the IBM BIOS was reverse-engineered by Compaq).

Re: Linux on Dex

#105

Post by wolfgke »

timClicks wrote: post #38
nine_k wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't hope that a phone would handle 10000 rows much better. But that "Excel" thing might be an answer: the laptop must be running Windows, and Windows users often run an antivirus, and some Windows antivirus software is known to be terrible. (The MS-provided basic antivirus was always fine in this regard, though.)

Cortana (well, search indexing) also really hurts performance. They're both disk I/O heavy services and make the whole machine sluggish imo

Turn Cortana off.

Re: Linux on Dex

#106

Post by mrb »

j45 wrote: post #94
Jaruzel wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> DEX opens a door for next generation Mobile Desktop , where you SmartPhone is also your Desktop Computer. Remember, Microsoft tried this with Continuum for Windows 8/10 and Windows Mobile, it failed. No-one actually wanted the core of their desktop inside their phones. People have partitioned off different use-cases for their PC and smartphones, and the overlap is smaller than designers think.

It wasn't that no one wanted them - they just weren't powerful or portable enough. Snapdragon's 835 changed that. So will the A12X from Apple.

The Snapdragon 835 is not the enabler here. A mid-range 5-year-old phone has 4 cores at 2+ GHz, more powerful than a 10-year-old computer. Even back then this was powerful enough to run plenty of desktop workloads. The thing that's enabling usage of phones as desktops is USB Type-C which is fast enough and versatile enough to carry video output and a USB singal while powering the phone.

Re: Linux on Dex

#107

Post by ObsoleteNerd »

i_phish_cats wrote: post #34

For those of us who don't have a supported device, there's an android app called [Termux]( https://termux.com/ ) which provides a surprisingly linux-y experience. I sometimes code on my 10" tablet with a small (60%) keyboard.

I do lots of work on my phone thanks to Termux and a 60% bluetooth mechanical keyboard. It's one of my most essential apps on Android. Either using it directly or using it to SSH into servers, raspberry pis, etc.

Re: Linux on Dex

#109

Post by ekianjo »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #56
camelNotation wrote: post #31

I want a laptop with a hole where the mouse pad should be. I want to be able to put my phone into that slot, dock it, and use the screen of my phone as the mouse pad for the laptop. I want my phone to do all the processing and work. I want the laptop dock to be an extension of my phone, running something like DEX to make the laptop experience work. The only thing I want this laptop dock to do is give me a screen, a k…

> I want to be able to put my phone into that slot, dock it, and use the screen of my phone as the mouse pad for the laptop. Minus the hole, that is one of the many features of kdeconnect: Use your android device as a wireless touchpad and keyboard.

yeah but kdeconnect cannot become your desktop from your phone. Thats just not the same kind of use here.

Re: Linux on Dex

#110

Post by ekianjo »

zeppelin101 wrote: post #16
nine_k wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...Except for the tiny screen and barely-usable keyboard. Desktops and even laptops make sense exactly where phones don't: large screens, large keyboards, a lot of CPU and battery. This can't fit in a pocket.

This is why Samsung created the DeX docks. You connect your phone to the DeX device and then connect all the peripherals to the DeX pad: monitor (via HDMI), and mouse + kb.

it means you need to have your monitor and keyboard ready in several locations. at some point if you work on the go it does not make sense anymore.
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