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I like Quora for this. The threat of a BNBR ding is eternal and the panopticon unwavering. As a result every interaction becomes an opportunity for reflection.

What is a BNBR ding? DuckDuckGo didn't turn anything up for me.

>BNBR

Be Nice, Be Respectful

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Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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HN is a perfect example of an classic, evergreen product. Or call it a crocodile product, as crocodiles are somewhat location-loyal. Are there more examples of products that did (on purpose) not change significantly? If you consider the sentiment on the recent GMail redesign, Facebook, .. it often appears that product managers are the only ones that want to change the product and its appeal. I think Reddit also had t…

As an avid redditor, I wish they preserved the crocodile concept. I can't bring myself to like their "new reddit" and always keep going back to "old.reddit.com/...".

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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When you'd load the page, you'd see blank, gray bars where the text should go while a "now loading" icon spins for a good 5 seconds, slowly feeding in the text. On mobile, text would be so big it only fits 7 lines on screen, 5 words on each. The menu bar at the top would stay up there as you scroll and eat a good 20% of vertical space at all times. Articles would load in thumbnail images that sometimes break and push…

The bottom half of the page would be covered by a popover that says, “Please download the mobile app. Pretty please?” And it would pop on your screen every time you view a new page.

It would scale to your screen, and tapping anywhere on the message body would take you to an app store. The 'close' button would be a fixed 10px square, grey on a black background. It would take at least 2 seconds to load in, and would jump around several times during that process with the button already active.

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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HN is a perfect example of an classic, evergreen product. Or call it a crocodile product, as crocodiles are somewhat location-loyal. Are there more examples of products that did (on purpose) not change significantly? If you consider the sentiment on the recent GMail redesign, Facebook, .. it often appears that product managers are the only ones that want to change the product and its appeal. I think Reddit also had t…

> Are there more examples of products that did (on purpose) not change significantly? I think Craigslist would be the classic example of a simple design that hasn't changed significantly over its lifetime.

It may not be popular to bring it up here, but the Drudge Report remains very similar to how it has looked for over 20 years.

Here's a look at the site on a random(ish) day in 2001: https://web.archive.org/web/20010119181300/http://www.drudge...

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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Like when they re-did the Slashdot interface. I remember it was crap and I stopped using it then. That's probably 10 years ago now.

The giant ad at the top definitely doesn’t help things, especially since it seems to randomly expand and contract as you go about your business...

The whole pattern of ads that 'scale down' as you scroll is horrid. It's a jarring event, usually doesn't happen smoothly as intended, and it almost always heralds an object that's going to follow you down the page. Nothing except maybe tactful menu bars should follow a user scrolling down a page of static text.

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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"Finished" is the right word. Apart from small UI tweaks it's still the same site as in 2007... And that's part of what makes HN great! I can't help but think that a team of Very Serious Expensive UX Professionals would have made a mess of HN thrice over by this time. (Can't you just imagine the 2010 rewrite in Java and GWT, and the 2014 redesign as an Angular SPA with sophisticated giant web fonts all over the place…

The only thing I miss are comment reply notifications. Someone might reply to something I wrote in comments a week ago and I have to visit my comment history periodically to check that. It doesn't have to be an active notification. Just add a numeric field added to user account that means "you got N new replies" and show it in the top-right corner next to my username. Once I see it, I will go and browse through comme…

"Just add a numeric field added to user account that means "you got N new replies" and show it in the top-right corner next to my username. "

I would like that too. I don't mind not having E-mail notifications but a simple indicator would be very useful.

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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Like when they re-did the Slashdot interface. I remember it was crap and I stopped using it then. That's probably 10 years ago now.

The Reddit redesign has been a turn off.

It doesn't help that it was rolled out as the default well before simple existing features like "rankings other than 'hot' on user pages" were implemented.

But destroying old CSS and then not displaying sidebar text in the new default view is what's going to have serious consequences. For all the talk about customization and moderator tools, they've made it so that new users won't see sidebars of rules, useful links, or related subs. Talk about undermining engagement and useful contributions...

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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"Finished" is the right word. Apart from small UI tweaks it's still the same site as in 2007... And that's part of what makes HN great! I can't help but think that a team of Very Serious Expensive UX Professionals would have made a mess of HN thrice over by this time. (Can't you just imagine the 2010 rewrite in Java and GWT, and the 2014 redesign as an Angular SPA with sophisticated giant web fonts all over the place…

The only thing I miss are comment reply notifications. Someone might reply to something I wrote in comments a week ago and I have to visit my comment history periodically to check that. It doesn't have to be an active notification. Just add a numeric field added to user account that means "you got N new replies" and show it in the top-right corner next to my username. Once I see it, I will go and browse through comme…

This can also help with that (in part) - https://littlebirdie.io - if you plug your own username in there.

Re: “12 years ago today, I finished writing Hacker News”

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The only thing I miss are comment reply notifications. Someone might reply to something I wrote in comments a week ago and I have to visit my comment history periodically to check that. It doesn't have to be an active notification. Just add a numeric field added to user account that means "you got N new replies" and show it in the top-right corner next to my username. Once I see it, I will go and browse through comme…

I honestly don't mind the lack of comment reply notifications because I find that it makes conversations less aggressive than on sites like reddit which do that. Less of a feeling of a mandated reply, more opportunities for other users to speak up on your behalf.

Agreed. At first, I thought I wanted notifications, but now I let it slide, and watch how the conversation moves, often to an unexpected direction.

I increasingly find that I'm happy to let it go that way, rather than 'defending a position'. This, of course, makes the need for comment notifications less important.

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