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Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error
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Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find this a good mechanism for determining which sites I don't care about.
Yep, browsing habits include: On medium.com or affiliated site: 40% chance of BS. Blank page with JS disabled: Built by people who would love 5 GB web pages; 80% chance of BS. "Please disable your ad blocker": Only people who love ads are real people; 90% chance of BS. "You seem to be offline." Built by idiots; 100% chance of BS.
Let's not forget:
Loads almost 500k in 0.75 seconds, CSS looks a decade old, uses no obvious JS: 95% likely to be exactly the content I want with none of that nonsense because it was written by a domain expert for fun, not ad revenue.
Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
It harms all the industries where the content is ad supported, which is the majority of the Internet right now. For just what I use every day Facebook, Spotify, Google, almost all news, Youtube, Reddit, and xkcd are all add supported. I get why people don't like ads but it's clearly how an absolutely massive portion of the modern Internet is monetized right now
And also that the majority of techies here work for companies either directly or indirectly ad supported. I include myself in that group and I use as blockers.
Some of us are doing paid B2B. Not sure about relative frequency, though.
Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not the case with CBS. You can absolutely pay for CBS All Access.
Do they turn off the ads if you pay? Many sites don’t offer a no-ad option at any price.
For the record there is a level you can pay for CBS All Access that turns off the ads (at least on original content, which is I assume the only reason anyone would sign up for it anyway). It costs more than the ad-full version, but that's basically what you're asking for, right?
But like sibling said, they are presumably still tracking you. I don't think consumers have really become aware enough of tracking for "no ads, no tracking" to be a viable thing yet.
Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error
#105I could imagine a few reasons for this:
• CBS is being malicious, and it's intentionally refusing to play the video if they detect tracking protection. (It sounds like a lot of people on the thread are assuming it's this one, and it very well may be.)
• CBS is being lazy, and didn't bother to test with tracking protection and work through any technical issues (like implementing graceful fallbacks).
• CBS is being cautious, and knows they haven't tested tracking protection as much, so they're leaving "disable tracking protection" in as a troubleshooting step, since it certainly does reduce the number of variables.
• Firefox is being unreasonable, and makes it enough of a pain to implement a website that works with tracking protection that CBS doesn't want to play ball. As a simple example, if Firefox's tracking protection blocked all cookies, plenty of honest parts of the internet would break (so it works differently, apparently with a domain block list). It sounds like others have had trouble with blocked domains that are sometimes used for tracking and sometimes for legitimate non-tracking purposes (like force.com, apparently), but I don't have a good sense of how common that really is.
Anyone have enough experience with these things to know how likely/reasonable the different explanations are? (Or if there are other reasons that I missed.)
Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error
#106I could imagine a few reasons for this: • CBS is being malicious, and it's intentionally refusing to play the video if they detect tracking protection. (It sounds like a lot of people on the thread are assuming it's this one, and it very well may be.) • CBS is being lazy, and didn't bother to test with tracking protection and work through any technical issues (like implementing graceful fallbacks). • CBS is being cau…
Firefox tracking protection doesn't block all cookies - just third party trackers on the disconnect.me basic list [1].
While all scenarios you listed are theoretically possible, basic due diligence suggests that there are pretty significant differences in their likelihoods of occurence. It is disingenuous to treat these as equally likely just to appear fair.
Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, if you stop using their website wouldn't it be a good thing for bandwidth heavy sites like YouTube? It's kind of like a restaurant showing you the door and then saying "I didn't want to eat here anyways."
I would be happy to accept denied access to most sites before loading their content. It'd be cool if browsers could send some sort of do not track header, that sites could then use to refuse to serve you any content. Assuming that they actually do want none of those users to consume their content in that way.
DNT headers are a thing. They were proposed by Mozilla originally, and its use was suppose to be opt in (and of course so is any compliance by the site in question).
Then IE10 turned it on by default, making it pretty much completely useless as a signal for site owners.
Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error
#108Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error
#109I could imagine a few reasons for this: • CBS is being malicious, and it's intentionally refusing to play the video if they detect tracking protection. (It sounds like a lot of people on the thread are assuming it's this one, and it very well may be.) • CBS is being lazy, and didn't bother to test with tracking protection and work through any technical issues (like implementing graceful fallbacks). • CBS is being cau…
Firefox tracking protection doesn't block all cookies - just third party trackers on the disconnect.me basic list [1]. While all scenarios you listed are theoretically possible, basic due diligence suggests that there are pretty significant differences in their likelihoods of occurence. It is disingenuous to treat these as equally likely just to appear fair. 1. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tracking-protection
> It is disingenuous to treat these as equally likely just to appear fair.
Then it's a good thing that the comment explicitly wasn't doing that, openly unsure of the likelihoods.
Re: Turn off tracking protection to resolve “video is currently unavailable” error
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would be happy to accept denied access to most sites before loading their content. It'd be cool if browsers could send some sort of do not track header, that sites could then use to refuse to serve you any content. Assuming that they actually do want none of those users to consume their content in that way.
DNT headers are a thing. They were proposed by Mozilla originally, and its use was suppose to be opt in (and of course so is any compliance by the site in question). Then IE10 turned it on by default, making it pretty much completely useless as a signal for site owners.
Changing the default value of DNT to "on", so that you needed to opt in if you wanted tracking, didn't make the header "useless" for site owners. But it did make it awfully inconvenient, because it underlined an awfully inconvenient truth: if a site makes money off tracking users, then the best interest of the site is at odds with the best interest of the users. Of course, many sites still wanted tracking, so they resorted to the scummy tactic of just ignoring the header.
In other words: if most users do not want to get tracked, this should have been a signal to stop fucking tracking. The fact that it didn't doesn't reflect well on sites, to put it mildly.
I totally agree with josteink: this is good news because it means that anti-tracking measures are starting to hurt.