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Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

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Just a little perspective, the 2 people at the top of the list (do search all) are football coaches making $2 million plus each year. And as an inspirational aside suggesting anyone can make it big, one of them coached in the Canadian Football League. He was probably lucky to make $40k a year there.

turn on your javascript, an ajax table loads with the actual CHP salaries

As I said above, and am repeating with slightly clearer punctuation:

do "search all"

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

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post #83

It is difficult to resist the conclusion that unions exercise total capture of the Californian budgetmaking process. (100% payraises in the face of the financial collapse? For line officers? In only two years? After they're the best paid in the nation? Before you consider the pensions?!)

Popular wisdom in California is that the budget problem is happening because it's too hard to raise taxes.

Bunk. Spending doubled in Cali between 1996 and 2006, up $100 billion.

I read somewhere that when Prop 13 passed, revenue from property taxes was $5 billion and now its over $40 billion.

The real problem is that our interests are not represented in Sacramento.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

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It's funny, one thing led to another earlier today and we found ourselves looking at the salaries for county workers in our area. Most of our county positions -- down to the road workers and clerical staff -- make more than I ever have. I'm struggling every month, growing a business, working a ton of hours, and these goons are drawing at least $50/month from every taxpayer in our county. I had to go outside and play…

And you should see how slowly they move when they do move.

Some city workers were behind my condo complex reinforcing the levee. Took 2 vehicles and employees to spread stones out. One truck for 2 to take a perpetual break and the other to occasionally spread some stones around to look busy. I guarantee you a private levee gets fixed in 1/10 the time and for 1/20 the cost.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

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post #23

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I wouldn't trade jobs with a CHP officer either but I do have to wonder about the skill level. I'm sure it's harder than I think but the job still boils down to parking on the side of the freeway, spotting violators, chasing them for about a minute and then writing them a ticket. Is that really worth $48+ an hour? Because that seems to be around the average pay (The CHP has a very powerful union so their base pay hou…

It also includes being a first responder to accidents. And watching over the cleanup of said accidents. People burned alive in cars. Children strewn across highways. And knowing every violation stop is a potential end to your life. Who knows who that driver is and what they're going to do? Do I want the job? No thanks. They're more than welcome to those salaries for what they deal with.

    And knowing every violation stop is a potential end to your life. Who knows who that driver is and what they're going to do?
According to Wolfram Alpha, 633,000 people are employed as police officers. From the Office Down Memorial Page, I found that 127 officers died in the line of duty in the United States in 2009. This gives us a death rate of 20 per 100,000. Of those 127 deaths, 60 were classified as the result of gunfire, during pursuit, or as the result of an assault. If we're generous and treat all of these incidents as homicides, we get a homicide rate of 9.5 per 100,000.

The 2008 murder rate in Detroit was 40.6 per 100,000. East St. Louis, 101.9 per 100,000! The murder rate across the entire United States at the same time was 5.4 per 100,000. The death rate of fishermen is 112 per 100,000.

We could dig into the numbers more and look at where these officers were killed and get an adjusted risk of homicide for police. Anyway, here's my point: The actual threat posed to police is small compared to the public perception of a threat.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

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post #30

Just a little perspective, the 2 people at the top of the list (do search all) are football coaches making $2 million plus each year. And as an inspirational aside suggesting anyone can make it big, one of them coached in the Canadian Football League. He was probably lucky to make $40k a year there.

A head football coach who does well at a school like Cal can bring in revenue many multiples of $2 million per year. Unfortunately for Cal, that's not the case currently...

No one wants to hear this -- but why does everyone involved with college football make money except for the players? The schools have colluded to fix the players pay at 1 full scholarship. College football is treated like a business in all areas except for players pay, why shouldn't there be a free market for their services?

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

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post #42

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I think it's quite simple. If I'm a taxpayer in California, I want to know how my tax dollars are being spent. Specifically, I'd like to know why a football coach is pulling in $2M a year while state employees are being threatened with furloughs and we're running the biggest deficit ever.

If you own a share of a company, does that entitle you to know the salaries of all its employees?

Usually the yearly report for the company will show the salaries of all the top executives and board members. Not sure what the actual "law" is on that though.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

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post #71

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True, however EMTs get paid less and see similar things, as do volunteer firemen earning $0 in my part of Pennsylvania. FWIW in most areas police are statistically less likely to die a violent death than the populace at large.

I think the difference is that, unlike EMTs and firemen, police officers need to be difficult to corrupt.

If NJ is any indication, higher salaries do nothing to prevent police corruption.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

#108
post #40

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It obviously can be dangerous at times but considering how many people want to be police officers this pay level seems corrupt. This is just anecdotal but I've met far more people who want to be police officers / fireman than engineers or doctors; surely there is a large supply of eligible candidates, I can't believe that there is any shortage of capable labor to justify this almost CEO level of pay.

Are there any numbers on that? Sure, there are lots of people who want to be police officers, but that's not the same as being qualified. As far as I can find, unemployment rates among officers are extremely low, there are many unfilled positions, and officers who moved have little difficulty finding new jobs. That all usually indicates a tight labor market. It's possible police academy is unnecessarily hard or somet…

Entry level police positions are typically very competitive. In some jurisdictions (in my area in NJ specifically), you simply cannot get hired without having connections to existing or retired officers. Getting fired is virtually unheard of. Local Colleges are filled with criminal justice majors will who never make it to an academy. The benefits, pay, power, and perks make it the ultimate job, if you can get it.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

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Wait, think about what you're complaining about—do you want your police to be low paid so they are more susceptible to bribes and corruption? Like they are in many other countries? And California is on the border with Mexico where massively funded global drug cartels operate.

If the average cop salary is set at some X amount higher than non-cops, then they are Y percent less likely to be on the take. If our police are a lot less corrupt, then overall, society pays more, but in theory receives an equal yet intangible benefit from better law enforcement in general.

Re: California Highway Patrol salaries

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post #61
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't trade jobs with a CHP officer either but I do have to wonder about the skill level. I'm sure it's harder than I think but the job still boils down to parking on the side of the freeway, spotting violators, chasing them for about a minute and then writing them a ticket. Is that really worth $48+ an hour? Because that seems to be around the average pay (The CHP has a very powerful union so their base pay hou…

Actually, the skill level is fairly high. The CHP academy is around 7 months long. Training is similar to boot camp. They train physically, high speed and safe driving techniques, weapons training, and of course they have to learn the vehicle code (it's a LOT bigger than you might think), and how to write reports. Getting into the academy is fairly difficult, and many cadets washout before finishing. There are so man…

> of course they have to learn the vehicle code

Of course this is the code that the law presumes that every driver knows. It would be unfair to punish someone for doing what they didn't know is illegal.

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