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Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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That still doesn't compare to the 300Mbps I'm getting right now even through Comcast, or the 1Gbps I'll be getting once the local fiber company builds out in my neighborhood in the next year or so.

For how much per month?

I pay $75/mo

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#102

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Well, great for Erlang. But this hardware is not running on Erlang but on C++. Erlang is used for testing.

Source? Ericsson themselves state that Erlang is a backbone of LTE, with "Many smartphones are connected for data transfer using Erlang software.". Seeing as Ericsson doesn't make cell phones, this would directly imply that critical portions of their base station software are written in Erlang. https://www.ericsson.com/en/news/2014/12/inside-erlang--crea...

I was working on the code for mobile nodes, 3G and 4G. C++ with RSARTE (IBM plugin for Eclipse for Real-Time Applications) [1]. I left but my friends started working on 5G where looks like they want to get rid of RSARTE and use clean C++. At some point of time some people in Sweden started looking into rewriting it in Erlang but after around 1 year it was dropped, don't remember why.

[1] https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home?lang...

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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>Ericsson was/is Intel's large foundry client That is actually Nokia. Not Ericsson

Nope, its Ericsson, and Intel fucked them over pretty badly. All of Ericsson's newer chips were designed for 10nm, which doesn't work & Intel is full up on 14nm. Firmware updates to existing hardware and rebrands of existing chips are all Ericsson has to retain customers until they can either get another fab to build their chip (2 to 3 years from now), or Intel sorts out the yield issues on 10nm. https://semiaccurate…

I mean like... For Christ Sake.

You take SemiAccruate as reliable sources, and even if the rumour were right. Ericsson was / is never disclosed as an Intel Custom Foundry Partner.

The only self disclosed Telcom Equipment manufacturer using Intel 10nm is Nokia, and BTW where is the NOKIA bankrupt and "no way out"

Seriously, this is HN, not Reddit.

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#104

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Source? Ericsson themselves state that Erlang is a backbone of LTE, with "Many smartphones are connected for data transfer using Erlang software.". Seeing as Ericsson doesn't make cell phones, this would directly imply that critical portions of their base station software are written in Erlang. https://www.ericsson.com/en/news/2014/12/inside-erlang--crea...

I was working on the code for mobile nodes, 3G and 4G. C++ with RSARTE (IBM plugin for Eclipse for Real-Time Applications) [1]. I left but my friends started working on 5G where looks like they want to get rid of RSARTE and use clean C++. At some point of time some people in Sweden started looking into rewriting it in Erlang but after around 1 year it was dropped, don't remember why. [1] https://www.ibm.com/developer…

Speed of running the code was likely why C++ was retained, Erlang is a higher level language that uses more resources, and depending on your platform target there may not be enough CPU resources in your average base station to support a software stack in Erlang doing packet forwarding, QoS or especially DPI.

That being said, for communications platforms it has some very useful properties when code starts to break, hence WhatsApp and 2600hz using it for their respective projects.

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

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post #103

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Nope, its Ericsson, and Intel fucked them over pretty badly. All of Ericsson's newer chips were designed for 10nm, which doesn't work & Intel is full up on 14nm. Firmware updates to existing hardware and rebrands of existing chips are all Ericsson has to retain customers until they can either get another fab to build their chip (2 to 3 years from now), or Intel sorts out the yield issues on 10nm. https://semiaccurate…

I mean like... For Christ Sake. You take SemiAccruate as reliable sources, and even if the rumour were right. Ericsson was / is never disclosed as an Intel Custom Foundry Partner. The only self disclosed Telcom Equipment manufacturer using Intel 10nm is Nokia, and BTW where is the NOKIA bankrupt and "no way out" Seriously, this is HN, not Reddit.

SemiAccurate tends to be fairly on point, they do have a heavy slant against anyone that isn't on the GNU/Linux software support train.

FYI, Ericsson admitted to this silicon problem negatively impacting them recently: https://semiaccurate.com/2018/08/30/update-to-intel-custom-f...

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Definitely! https://semiaccurate.com/2018/07/02/intel-custom-foundrys-10...

Nowhere there does it actually confirm that it's Nokia or Ericsson (or anyone else for that matter).

Its definitely Ericsson, they admitted to it in their recent filings: https://semiaccurate.com/2018/08/30/update-to-intel-custom-f...

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#107

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Nowhere there does it actually confirm that it's Nokia or Ericsson (or anyone else for that matter).

Its definitely Ericsson, they admitted to it in their recent filings: https://semiaccurate.com/2018/08/30/update-to-intel-custom-f...

Is there a link for the filing? I hadn't seen that update but it's still just rumours!

Re: Ericsson and T-Mobile ink $3.5B deal for 5G

#108

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Its definitely Ericsson, they admitted to it in their recent filings: https://semiaccurate.com/2018/08/30/update-to-intel-custom-f...

Is there a link for the filing? I hadn't seen that update but it's still just rumours!

There are a few links in the subscribers only part of the article that compare the last two filings. IIRC these articles age out after a certain period, check back in 46 days?
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