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Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by laurent123456 »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #41

"only" $100K - aren't we living in a world now where companies started in a garage make that amount of money ten times a second? I haven't heard anything from e.g. Google or Facebook's open source funding endeavours. IMO every successful company should do their part and set aside a sizeable percentage of their revenue to paying and supporting open source projects and developers. It's wrong that e.g. the developer of…

How can the developer of cURL be struggling to make ends meet? With his fame and technical skills it should be easy to find a very well paid job. I don't know the story behind this but it seems a bit weird.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by yolodeveloper »

nothis wrote: post #58
scrollaway wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How long do you think $100k lasts with two full-time devs exactly?

3 months of a professional UI designer could easily quadruple the usefulness of GIMP for me. The UI, in its current state (I always use this disclaimer and it never changed in like 10 years), is a horrible mess and makes GIMP unusable for most professional work. There is no trend of it getting better. They need to hire someone from the outside, accepting that kick in the butt.

GIMP is only UI. GEGL is actually doing the job behind it. Rewriting UI would mean to restart the GIMP project from scratch. Not that it would be a bad thing.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by jandrese »

nothis wrote: post #5
darkwinx wrote: post #2

I hope that someday GIMP will have major change just like Krita & Blender. The UI of GIMP have received many complains.

I want to support GIMP but, especially for fast, professional use, the UI makes it impossible. Their raw features are on par with anything I'd want to do in Photoshop, it's 100% a UI issue at this point. And I don't get why it's this hard for open source projects to realize that (the only notable exception I know is Firefox, which I love).

Personally I've found GIMP's UI to be easier than Photoshop's, but I started out with the GIMP.

I wonder if maybe they shouldn't go with a XUL like system where the UI can be greatly customized by third parties. Someone would undoubtedly create the Photoshop clone UI and make a bunch of people happy.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by knodi123 »

djschnei wrote: post #12
rasengan wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes when there isn’t unlimited funding and the ability to spend unlimited time, the efforts are probably spent on core functionality over aesthetics. GIMP is a highly featureful project with powerful scripting capabilities. I wouldn’t say it isn’t already on par or more powerful than Photoshop.

> I wouldn’t say it isn’t already on par or more powerful than Photoshop. Having just woken up, deprived of my morning caffeine, this sentence sent my brain for a real loop :)

his main point is powerful, but there's not enough funding for him to spend time on phrasing.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

#105

Post by ptero »

This is great, I hope Gimp puts it to good use. I would love for Gimp to focus more on artistic uses instead of only on software types (which is probably a vain hope).

We would greatly benefit from a good artistic/photo image editing tool that does not belong to the Adobe's subscription license racket. Unfortunately, Gimp is not nearly in the same class as Photoshop, so most artists grumble about Adobe but still pay subscription because its UI is SO much better. Photoshop is the main reason I still run Windows at home; I would gladly donate this money to Gimp instead if it provides the same functionality: good slider and visual coordination to find the right levels and color balances, good color support (no, 8-bit color is not enough), decent printing (at least to 17"x40") and raw camera images.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by antt »

nothis wrote: post #48
ethelward wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Europe (and I guess, the US too), $100K is not even enough to hire an engineer at an average rate for a year. I'm not sure what you'd propose to do with it exactly?

I don't know where you work but there's plenty of places in Europe where you can hire a decent engineer for $100k a year.

What the company pays and what the developer receives are two very different numbers. In extreme cases the difference can be up to 30%.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by School-Cotton »

baby wrote: post #97

Free-to-play is huge in gaming, but in tooling it’s not. Why? A free Photoshop integrating a brush marketplace would make a shit ton of money. A free Premiere with a marketplace for effects?

I think when you're in a serious work mood, not having fun playing a game, that sort of thing would be incredibly infuriating.

Also, Photoshop is usually paid for by people's employees anyway, so the user doesn't really care about the price.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

#108

Post by sct202 »

wiz21c wrote: post #54
redsymbol wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) Hardware upgrades catapult productivity. Ever gone through the sheer hell of developing on a sluggish, over-taxed computer? For a project like this, the faster build times alone will make HW upgrades worth it. 2) This team has proven their dedication by sacrificing immense time & opportunity - some of them, for years - to work on this fantastic gift to the world. Not that it's your call, or mine - the $ was given…

yeah but 100000$ is a big one. You can buy a very good build machine for 10000€ esp. if you rent it and paying a few trips to a hackfest and a small venue is certainly not 90000$... So even if it's none of my business, it does raise questions. but well, Gimp as served me well, has been there so long that the only thing I can say is kudo's to the devs. they could even pay themselves a bit, that'd well be deserved.

GIMP's financials are included under the GNOME Foundation's 501c3 filings, so you can take a look if you're suspicious.

GNOME in total last year only spent $110k on salaries with $300k in revenue (also they had $670k in the bank). Based on their past filings, they look pretty fiscally responsible.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by PascLeRasc »

ptero wrote: post #105

This is great, I hope Gimp puts it to good use. I would love for Gimp to focus more on artistic uses instead of only on software types (which is probably a vain hope). We would greatly benefit from a good artistic/photo image editing tool that does not belong to the Adobe's subscription license racket. Unfortunately, Gimp is not nearly in the same class as Photoshop, so most artists grumble about Adobe but still pay…

Krita's pretty good for an digital-pencil-based art tool and Darktable is a nice Lightroom replacement, both just need a bit of UI tuning.

Re: GIMP receives a $100K donation

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Post by School-Cotton »

gempir wrote: post #52
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #41

"only" $100K - aren't we living in a world now where companies started in a garage make that amount of money ten times a second? I haven't heard anything from e.g. Google or Facebook's open source funding endeavours. IMO every successful company should do their part and set aside a sizeable percentage of their revenue to paying and supporting open source projects and developers. It's wrong that e.g. the developer of…

Well in the end the world is not a fair place. Linux Torvalds isn't exactly loaded either, although he isn't poor. But In the end people are gonna abuse your products to make as much money as possible and there is no guarantee, you will ever see a penny of it if you sell it as Free Software.

Why do you use the word "abuse" ?
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