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Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Re: Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Post by yelkarthik »

benfrain wrote: post #65

I’m amazed no-one has mentioned the lack of a built-in commenting feature. The makers of Ghost are here appreciating the benefits of comments but sadly they haven’t made there way to Ghost yet. I’d love to move to Ghost from Wordpress but commenting is essential. And no. 3rd party Garbage like Disqus isn’t a viable option.

Not to bomb the conversation here - Just trying to sell a product ;). We are building a user engagement tool called Metype.

The good thing about this tool is you can customize it the way you want it to look. The look and feel of the comments can match your website's design. You can use our simple javascript implementation and integrate it into your Ghost site. If you decide to stay on wordpress we do have a easy to use wordpress plugin too!

Please visit https://www.metype.com if you want to see the other products we provide. Do shoot us an email or chat with us on our site if you want to give it a shot or provide us feedback.

Re: Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Post by laxis »

benfrain wrote: post #65

I’m amazed no-one has mentioned the lack of a built-in commenting feature. The makers of Ghost are here appreciating the benefits of comments but sadly they haven’t made there way to Ghost yet. I’d love to move to Ghost from Wordpress but commenting is essential. And no. 3rd party Garbage like Disqus isn’t a viable option.

while it's not a great solution, a seperate local comment-system that's loaded from your template might be your best bet.

i remember someone linking isso[0] some time ago; haven't used it at all, but it came to mind (mostly because of the 'big data' comment on the landing page)

[0] https://posativ.org/isso/

Re: Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Post by bovermyer »

marc_io wrote: post #67
undseg wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is always the first thing I look for in the new version announcements for big blogging platforms. Would be amazing if I didn't need to know a completely separate technology and/or hack together bridges/site "staticizers" in order to have a quite basic functionality (the site be 100% static when no back-end dynamic interaction is needed). That said, there are third party plugins for WordPress that do this. Don't…

Check out Publii, then (Open Source too). It's quite similar to WordPress in a lot of ways, but it's a desktop app that uploads static files. https://github.com/GetPublii/Publii

Why have I not heard of this? This sounds like a great tool.

Re: Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Post by bovermyer »

benfrain wrote: post #65

I’m amazed no-one has mentioned the lack of a built-in commenting feature. The makers of Ghost are here appreciating the benefits of comments but sadly they haven’t made there way to Ghost yet. I’d love to move to Ghost from Wordpress but commenting is essential. And no. 3rd party Garbage like Disqus isn’t a viable option.

I'm curious as to why commenting is essential for you.

Re: Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Post by yelkarthik »

bovermyer wrote: post #104
benfrain wrote: post #65

I’m amazed no-one has mentioned the lack of a built-in commenting feature. The makers of Ghost are here appreciating the benefits of comments but sadly they haven’t made there way to Ghost yet. I’d love to move to Ghost from Wordpress but commenting is essential. And no. 3rd party Garbage like Disqus isn’t a viable option.

I'm curious as to why commenting is essential for you.

I think it depends on the kind of content and audience but surely but I'm also curious.

Re: Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Post by funkdified »

schlagetown wrote: post #84
benfrain wrote: post #65

I’m amazed no-one has mentioned the lack of a built-in commenting feature. The makers of Ghost are here appreciating the benefits of comments but sadly they haven’t made there way to Ghost yet. I’d love to move to Ghost from Wordpress but commenting is essential. And no. 3rd party Garbage like Disqus isn’t a viable option.

My current favorite solution for comments is Discourse — they actually have a great plugin for WordPress that replaces the default WP comments. Maybe overkill for some, but really nice when building a real community (ongoing discussion rather than drive-by commenting) is a priority. I could see this being a similarly nice solution for Ghost! Though simpler native commenting support would be cool too.

Have you ever looked at all the third party scripts loaded by disqus? Garbage.

Re: Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Post by benfrain »

bovermyer wrote: post #104
benfrain wrote: post #65

I’m amazed no-one has mentioned the lack of a built-in commenting feature. The makers of Ghost are here appreciating the benefits of comments but sadly they haven’t made there way to Ghost yet. I’d love to move to Ghost from Wordpress but commenting is essential. And no. 3rd party Garbage like Disqus isn’t a viable option.

I'm curious as to why commenting is essential for you.

The comments on a blog post are often as useful as the post itself. They are also directly related to the content of the post. Why would I want that information stored anywhere else but with the post itself? Especially with a 3rd party? To say conversation can be done with other services just seems like passing the buck to me.

Re: Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Post by monkeydust »

johnonolan wrote: post #40
pmlnr wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seo is a theme thing, and it barely has anything to do with the engine.

Not strictly true, Ghost has a lot of built-in features for SEO. In particular: Detailed schema.org microformats and structured data, automatic canonical tags, automated + user override-able custom meta data, automatic XML sitemaps, SEO friendly routes, RPC pings, automatic Google AMP support, and quite a few other things. We do all of these things in core, rather than leaving it up to the theme, so that everyone get…

Thanks - are there examples you can point me to for commercial sites built from Ghost that advertise products (through affiliate links)?

Re: Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Post by Kihashi »

arusahni wrote: post #60
Yhippa wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loved Octopress and wanted to use that. It seems like development stopped around 2016. Do know if someone forked it and there's a more updated version out there?

It definitely looks like Octopress development has tapered off. As you can tell, I haven't had to do this research for a while :-) It looks like a lot of Octopress users have migrated to vanilla Jekyll for their needs.

Yeah. From what I remember, Octopress was designed to take Jekyll from static site generator to Blog engine (i.e. automate the manual stuff to set up a blog). Jekyll has since cribbed significantly from Octopress to make it much easier to approach for that use case.

Re: Introducing Ghost 2.0

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Post by KajMagnus »

lookingsideways wrote: post #100
benfrain wrote: post #65

I’m amazed no-one has mentioned the lack of a built-in commenting feature. The makers of Ghost are here appreciating the benefits of comments but sadly they haven’t made there way to Ghost yet. I’d love to move to Ghost from Wordpress but commenting is essential. And no. 3rd party Garbage like Disqus isn’t a viable option.

Built-in commenting is planned as part of the Memberships & Subscriptions feature[0]. Ghost needs a robust visitor authentication system for native commenting to work well and that will also involve a big concept-shift for Ghost's front-end from static generation to each page load potentially being dynamic. In the meantime, Discourse[1] and Talk[2] are great options that can be self-hosted if needed and integrate wel…

Here's another one: Talkyard — different from Discourse and Mozilla Talk, in that it looks more like Hacker News and Disqus: threaded comments, best first, Like votes.

It's free and open source, beta software (more risky than those two others), I'm developing it. There's SaaS hosting (no ads, no tracking — costs money instead) for people who don't want to install on their own server.

Demo: https://www.kajmagnus.blog/new-embedded-comments, read about it: https://www.talkyard.io/blog-comments

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Curious about how you have in mind that built-in commenting will look & work. Disqus, Talk and Discourse are all fairly different from each other, right, and I'm a bit wondering which approach you'll take. B.t.w. looks interesting with SSO & full community integration.

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