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The un-celebrity president: Jimmy Carter shuns riches, lives modestly

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Re: The un-celebrity president: Jimmy Carter shuns riches, lives modestly

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Post by humanrebar »

icebraining wrote: post #99
humanrebar wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's an odd thing to be fond of visiting with a man with the justified infamy of Castro. He is responsible for human rights violations, escalation of the cold war in the Western Hemisphere, crippling the Cuban economy and any number of other things. But I guess he loved his country. Except for the people he exiled to the U.S. I guess.

"He is responsible for human rights violations, escalation of the cold war in the Western Hemisphere, crippling the Cuban economy" Those would indeed be funny accusations for an ex- POTUS to make.

Well, he could have not cozied up to dictators and avoided the whole issue.

Re: The un-celebrity president: Jimmy Carter shuns riches, lives modestly

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Post by freddie_mercury »

humanrebar wrote: post #96
freddie_mercury wrote: post #41

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I just read a story about Obama and Arethra Franklin yet you think Carter is the most visible ex-president?

OK. Second most celebrity is fair. Why downvote a valid opinion, folks?

I didn't downvote you but my guess: because your "opinion" included facts that were so obviously incorrect that they could only be the result of tremendous amounts of bias that make you unable to correctly judge reality. Which makes your "opinion" not a useful contribution on a site that (tries to) value correctness.

If you were able to express your opinion without resorting to tremendous amounts of hyperbolism that make it trivially easy to imagine you as a frothing-at-the-mouth partisan you probably would have been able to more effectively convey whatever it was you wanted to get across to the readers at HackerNews.

Re: The un-celebrity president: Jimmy Carter shuns riches, lives modestly

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Post by humanrebar »

freddie_mercury wrote: post #102
humanrebar wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK. Second most celebrity is fair. Why downvote a valid opinion, folks?

I didn't downvote you but my guess: because your "opinion" included facts that were so obviously incorrect that they could only be the result of tremendous amounts of bias that make you unable to correctly judge reality. Which makes your "opinion" not a useful contribution on a site that (tries to) value correctness. If you were able to express your opinion without resorting to tremendous amounts of hyperbolism that…

That wasn't my post.

Re: The un-celebrity president: Jimmy Carter shuns riches, lives modestly

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Post by shanghaiaway »

pdfernhout wrote: post #90
gumby wrote: post #43

Like Cincinnatus, returning home after the war and taking up his plow. Two things have always struck me about Jimmy Carter: 1 - He was willing to nominate Volker to Fed chair even though he knew Volker's plan of raising interest rates massively would cost him (Carter) re-election. I believe he would have survived even the Iran crisis but for that, but it was the right thing to do. Reagan got all the credit for it sin…

Carter's speech in 1979 was prescient: http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/jimmycartercrisisof... "We are at a turning point in our history. There are two paths to choose. One is a path I’ve warned about tonight, the path that leads to fragmentation and self-interest. Down that road lies a mistaken idea of freedom, the right to grasp for ourselves some advantage over others. That path would be one of constant co…

It would be un-American to pick the right path.

Re: The un-celebrity president: Jimmy Carter shuns riches, lives modestly

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Post by a_136_chiffa »

siberianbear wrote: post #2

I decided to submit this because I have always been fascinated with Jimmy Carter. What a genuine, decent person. But history has judged him as one of the worst presidents. I was in third grade when Carter was running for re-election against Ronald Reagan. Our teacher gave us an assignment to create a campaign poster for your favorite candidate. I chose Jimmy Carter, and added the campaign slogan, "I will gladly trade…

> But history has judged him as one of the worst presidents.

Nah, not if you talk to any craft brewers or beer enthusiasts. They are basically inches short of having his portrait hung in every craft brewery and pub due to his H.R. 1337 bill. If it wasn't for political partisanship, this might have already happened.

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Post by hfdgiutdryg »

leereeves wrote: post #100
hfdgiutdryg wrote: post #75

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Your claim that, "Jimmy Carter sent the military to go massacre students" is not supported by that article. It was an interesting read, though.

> According to declassified U.S. documents I obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, the Carter administration gave prior approval to Chun to use the army to quell the wave of unrest that shook South Korea in the spring of 1980. The hundreds of State Department and Pentagon cables contradict the official U.S. claims that the Carter administration was surprised by Chun's resort to force and had no advance knowl…

Again, your claim that, "Jimmy Carter sent the military to go massacre students" is not supported by that article.

You appear to have a reading comprehension problem.

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