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Netflix Has Deleted Every User Review Ever Posted to Its Website

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Re: Netflix Has Deleted Every User Review Ever Posted to Its Website

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Kind of. I run Streama https://github.com/streamaserver/streama Combined with ripped dvds and/or pirate bay, can make for a refreshing video streaming service you own and host.

I left my bootlegging days behind ...

I have a Netfilx account and yet torrent all their stuff because I watch on my monitor and can't stand watching videos on a browser. I don't watch Youtube on a browser either.

Using stuff like Radarr/Sonarr/Jackett/... makes for a higher quality experience.

Re: Netflix Has Deleted Every User Review Ever Posted to Its Website

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It may also be the case that negative reviews of movies, TV shows, and stand-up specials did more to dissuade potential viewers than positive reviews did them to draw in; ... Netflix's bigger problem is that much of its content looks good on the surface, but on closer inspection is not worth the time. A lot of this stuff is produced by Netflix itself. Bill Nye's most recent show comes to mind, but there's a lot more.…

Netflix is in the game of "filler" content. They will make money even if the content is mediocre because (many) people will turn to Netflix even if the quality is not stellar. That's unfortunate but a reality of the business model. If it didn't work, they wouldn't keep making lots of crap.

I’ve switched to Amazon Prime. Not better. I might try the other competitors soon, but all in all, only Torrents have a decent catalog.

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Maybe few people were using it because they made it hard / impossible to use? 70% of Netflix's viewing happens on TV. You couldn't even access user reviews on tv. 15% of Netflix's viewing happens on smart phones and tablets. You couldn't even access user reviews on mobile. So 85% of Netflix's viewers (TV, phones, tablets) couldn't even access the reviews from their viewing-devices. You could only access reviews on de…

I can believe that's all true. So people now primarily consume the content through interfaces that inherently would make it difficult to interact with reviews. (And I suspect if they did pop up a box asking you to add a review after you watched something that would really annoy everyone.) In a lot of ways, the user reviews are mostly a vestige of when people used them while adding DVDs to their queue.

They didn’t have it in the UI. There is nothing inherently difficult about browsing reviews on a mobile device. Millions do it every time they’re about to download an app. There is no option to read reviews given to effectively 85% of their viewers. That was their design decision. And now they’re citing review usage numbers when their design decisions promoted low review usage numbers. They’re providing a circular argument which implies that it is not the main reason.

Re: Netflix Has Deleted Every User Review Ever Posted to Its Website

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It may also be the case that negative reviews of movies, TV shows, and stand-up specials did more to dissuade potential viewers than positive reviews did them to draw in; ... Netflix's bigger problem is that much of its content looks good on the surface, but on closer inspection is not worth the time. A lot of this stuff is produced by Netflix itself. Bill Nye's most recent show comes to mind, but there's a lot more.…

Well, maybe since Netflix has viewing data, knows how often a show is watched to completion, and over 125 million paying subscribers and some sort of multiple of actual users per account, could it possibly be that they have more of an insight into what is “junk” than someone looking in from the outside?

> 125 million paying subscribers

And, for any given subscriber, only ~15 quality movies and ~25 quality series (although only seasons up to 2 years ago, I’m looking at you, Sherlock).

It might be harder than expected to recommend « what to watch next » using artificial intelligence or statistics, when you have to rotate on max 50 items (and less than 8.000 per country, counting every episode of every show).

Re: Netflix Has Deleted Every User Review Ever Posted to Its Website

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It may also be the case that negative reviews of movies, TV shows, and stand-up specials did more to dissuade potential viewers than positive reviews did them to draw in; ... Netflix's bigger problem is that much of its content looks good on the surface, but on closer inspection is not worth the time. A lot of this stuff is produced by Netflix itself. Bill Nye's most recent show comes to mind, but there's a lot more.…

Well, maybe since Netflix has viewing data, knows how often a show is watched to completion, and over 125 million paying subscribers and some sort of multiple of actual users per account, could it possibly be that they have more of an insight into what is “junk” than someone looking in from the outside?

Not everyone will stop watching a bad movie midway through, even if they don't like it.

Re: Netflix Has Deleted Every User Review Ever Posted to Its Website

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I left my bootlegging days behind ...

I have a Netfilx account and yet torrent all their stuff because I watch on my monitor and can't stand watching videos on a browser. I don't watch Youtube on a browser either. Using stuff like Radarr/Sonarr/Jackett/... makes for a higher quality experience.

How is watching a movie or a clip in a browser on full screen not highest possible quality experience? What is gained from not watching in a browser?

Re: Netflix Has Deleted Every User Review Ever Posted to Its Website

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It's hard for me to get too upset. Personally, it seems a bit conspiracy theory to think it's people might read negative reviews. Seems more likely it was a poorly used resource and Netflix didn't see the value in continue to support, maintain, and screen it. That aside, it points to a couple of issues. There is a lot of bad content on Netflix. It never had a good film catalog and their TV strategy has clearly evolve…

> No one has come close to solving recommendation.

What if it isn't solvable? To me it doesn't look like there is enough room to maneuver, at least not in things like movies and TV shows, I think in music there might be. Say a recommendation needs to fulfill the intersection of 2+ things the user likes to feel like a recommendation, for example "you watched space and romance movies, here's a romance in space" otherwise it's just "you watched some space movies, here are some more". I don't think there are enough movies in existence, especially once you apply common criteria like "isn't in a foreign language, isn't on another streaming service, isn't very old or low budget" for these intersections to be filled with more than one or two items. In the space romance example above, the sole example I'm aware of is Passengers, there may be one or two others but it's not enough that you aren't going to deplete the pool even watching casually.

That only leaves extrapolating completely new things I might like based on more general patterns, but that falls victim to the same issue. If you know that I liked Passengers (already difficult without explicit feedback, watched does not mean liked), you have no idea whether I liked it because it had Jennifer Lawrence in it, or because of the tone, or the presentation, or the theme, or any other facet of it. And I only watch tens or hundreds of movies, not the thousands or ideally millions necessary to isolate the fact that I like movies with one very particular tone very slightly more than other movies.

Re: Netflix Has Deleted Every User Review Ever Posted to Its Website

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For me, the value of Spotify is much higher than Netflix, because it gives me access to the best music while former contains a small collection of mostly shitty TV shows. I cancelled Netflix few years ago and never regret it. There are much better video content providers, for example The Great Courses Plus is my favorite even if it's twice more expensive than Netflix

Re: Netflix Has Deleted Every User Review Ever Posted to Its Website

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It may also be the case that negative reviews of movies, TV shows, and stand-up specials did more to dissuade potential viewers than positive reviews did them to draw in; ... Netflix's bigger problem is that much of its content looks good on the surface, but on closer inspection is not worth the time. A lot of this stuff is produced by Netflix itself. Bill Nye's most recent show comes to mind, but there's a lot more.…

Whether a show, book, movie, song, etc is "worth the time" is entirely subjective. There are million dollar franchises based on material that I don't consider worth my time. But you better believe that stuff is worth Netflix's time. A perfect example of this is "Bright," a netflix movie that was critically panned. But people watched it. And now they're making "Bright 2". Are you really suggesting that Netflix should…

None of this is relevant though. You're comparing critical acclaim with the opinion of the masses, while what's being discussed is the reaction of the masses based on pre-viewing marketing (views) vs the reaction of the masses _after_ having seen the movie (reviews).

You conjured the objection to professional critics out of whole cloth to bolster the weak argument that the opinion of the masses who've watched the movie in question is not _precisely_ what they should be optimizing for.

Views that a user is dissatisfied with is obviously not good for the user. While just as directly profitable for Netflix, it's also something they should seek to minimize in favor of satisfied views (ie views that would lead to good reviews), as it can be a leading indicator for "I don't like much of what I watch on Netflix" --> "I'm going to watch less Netflix". The latter is obviously not something Netflix wants, both in terms of ability to acquire content and potential loss of subscriptions on the margins.

Re: Netflix Has Deleted Every User Review Ever Posted to Its Website

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe few people were using it because they made it hard / impossible to use? 70% of Netflix's viewing happens on TV. You couldn't even access user reviews on tv. 15% of Netflix's viewing happens on smart phones and tablets. You couldn't even access user reviews on mobile. So 85% of Netflix's viewers (TV, phones, tablets) couldn't even access the reviews from their viewing-devices. You could only access reviews on de…

I can believe that's all true. So people now primarily consume the content through interfaces that inherently would make it difficult to interact with reviews. (And I suspect if they did pop up a box asking you to add a review after you watched something that would really annoy everyone.) In a lot of ways, the user reviews are mostly a vestige of when people used them while adding DVDs to their queue.

It's not at all hard to "interact with" reviews on mobile or with a remote.

Talking about a popup is a non sequitur, it's not like the web site does that.

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