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Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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The other famous one of those is "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-i...

I like it. iTunes, for those that haven't used a Mac, is REALLY slick. This has aged gloriously, thank you!

Back in the day, iTunes is the best music manager. Now it still is a great one.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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The other famous one of those is "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-i...

The first iPod was terrible though and sold poorly. The 3G was the first good model, and they didn’t start taking off until the 4G. History only proves that his analysis was completely correct.

3G was when they added Windows support. Probably coincidence :)

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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This should probably link directly to the message from the community moderator: https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/Syncing-and-uploads/Linux-Dr...

Right now it just links to the second page of the discussion; the community moderator's message is on the first page.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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It’s a really great example of worse is better.[1] We went from sophisticated network file system to a daemon that destroys your battery life (at least on Mac) watching for file changes in a directory. [1] https://www.dreamsongs.com/RiseOfWorseIsBetter.html

Your situation is different than mine; this is the first I've heard of Dropbox even registering as a top use of battery. How many files do you have? I've got 26000 files in my Mac's dropbox folder. (Granted, very few of them change more than once or twice a day; maybe 20 or so of those do.)

It definitely happens in some scenarios. Especially if you do fancy things like using links, etc, and especially when Apple incremented MacOS.

IIRC, there was a variable, hard limit for objects in a folder or locks in a folder where it would go wacky.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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No problem, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem.

More seriously: Syncthing exists, and it is beautiful. I set my grandmother up with Synctrayzor and she doesn't know the difference between that and Dropbox. It is missing the ability to share things with a direct link, or share a repository or folder "easily" (read: in the same way it's done with Dropbox), but the trade off has been worth it for me.

Unison is beautiful, as it has a formal specification with proofs of correctness for its bidirectional syncing. Bi-directional syncing is hard to get right and many devs have been subsequently shown to not understand the problem fully, for example DropBox: https://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/papers/mysteriesofdropbo...

My instinctive reaction is not to trust any brand new effort without more evidence of its correctness.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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No problem, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem.

Just in case anyone doesn't recognize this quote, it is from the 2007 hacker news post about Dropbox: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863

The dhouston on that YC post is this guy now: Andrew W. Houston is an American Internet billionaire entrepreneur who is best known for being the co-founder and CEO of Dropbox, an online backup and storage service. According to Forbes magazine, his net worth is ~$3 billion.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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That statement is bit dubious. The next line also says: > A supported file system is required as Dropbox relies on extended attributes (X-attrs) to identify files in the Dropbox folder and keep them in sync. We will keep supporting only the most common file systems that support X-attrs, so we can ensure stability and a consistent experience. Certainly XFS supports xattr and hence ideally should be supported. I don't…

It's because Linux users know what they're getting and store more data then "regular" users. It's the same reason "unlimited" storage plans from Backblaze don't have a Linux client.

Do you have any support for that claim? It seems incredibly unlikely that, say, Windows/Mac users don't store pictures, video, or music in their Dropbox folders and those are by far the most common way people use space in the modern era.

Re: Ending support for Dropbox syncing to drives with certain uncommon file systems

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Would you kindly provide recommendations? I'm looking for a sync service which can run on windows AND linux (which is why onedrive and google drive are out)...and i'm willing to pay a fair monthly fee.

Just use syncthing. It works better, is open source, and runs on everything.

Doesn't that require you to play sysadmin running your own servers?
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