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Six Months at Riot Games
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, you would appear to be right. I wont argue the contrary. still, I had not expected it.
So, in tech, do people not go to strip clubs anymore? Like, what's the culture now? Are all interpersonal relationships now formalized into an algorithm? Do people not get into actual fistfights at the office anymore?
> do people not go to strip clubs anymore?
I've been in the industry 20 years and not had that happen anywhere I worked in the UK.
> Are all interpersonal relationships now formalized into an algorithm?
Eh?
> Do people not get into actual fistfights at the office anymore?
The guy I knew who did that at his gaming company Christmas party got put on "final warning" for a year.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
> stories like this encourages me to never hire women maybe you're just an asshole
Thank you for your respectful response. I’d like to say that, if you were in charge of hiring people, you’d try to calculate the risks when hiring someone. Hiring a women is unfortunately way too risky. You can find dozens of these posts with no proof whatsoever, but people will believe them and support the writer no matter what (some people even go and insult like you, because they can’t handle people having differe…
I think anentropic's probably insulting you because you're being an asshole, actually.
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#104Why isn’t the “bro culture” being weeded out of tech at the university stage. Bros’ and frat boys don’t make it through electrical engineering; they flunk out, at least from my experience. I don’t work with anyone like that. What’s wrong with the tech sector when it comes to computer science? Maybe the science is no longer required?
My perspective is that in a tech company you usually still have the nerds and bros dichotomy. The nerds are the engineers, while the bros are the ones in sales/management/community/design positions. You can also see this in pop culture portrayals of tech jobs as well, such as Silicon Valley (Bachman is a bro caricature) or Halt and Catch Fire (Joe's about 90% psychopath, 10% bro).
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#105Looking at this skeptically, given that as she says she put a target on her own back there's not much concrete here about problems she personally faced. Companies have a culture, it might not be your culture, and it's mental to expect to be able to walk in and attack it in the first six months then everything be sweetness and joy. Joining a gaming company and complaining about female outfits is roughly equivalent to…
>I saw men acting the way men do in a very male environment and objectifying/trying to sleep with women. I'm a man and I do none of this, even in a "very male environment."
Well that's fair enough but in some cultures it's fairly common. I am not a big bro guy but I've definitely discussed women with male friends/colleagues. I don't think it's super demeaning or immoral to discuss girls that you like, it's just getting very taboo in parts of Western culture when done by men. Sex dynamics are like at the core of society it's all still happening whether you're speed to discuss it or not.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with you. And the fact that this was posted on Tumblr including a Content Warning only adds icing to this ironic cake. To those who disagree, lemme put it this way: it's not only videogame culture, it is plain old trash talk. Boxing, basketball, soccer, UFC, tennis, you name it, you have it in most competitive sports. It shocks pretty much anyone who hasn't taken part in a competitive sport/e-sport community…
Football (soccer) is probably a poor choice of analogy, given that it has a reputation for racism - everything from bananas thown at players to blaming "immigrants" for team failures. Or even for successes - there were people complaining that the winning French team wasn't white enough. There are no "out" male professional footballers. This is statistically implausible; the homophobia is sufficiently bad that they ha…
Yeah, I don't defend the fans, I was talking within the business. Football (soccer) all around Europe follows a don't ask, don't tell among players. They know who's what, but it's not public because of the actual shitty homophobia among the fans.
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#107A woman writes a post saying she’s offended by typical male jokes. The majority of employees are male, but they have to instead adapt to the vocal minority that can’t take a dick joke. I understand there are idiots but stories like this encourages me to never hire women, because they’re obviously over-sensitive and will at some point write a “I have been offended and this company is sexist” post and nobody will quest…
>stories like this encourages me to never hire women When you hire, you have to consider if the person is a good cultural fit. Sex of the applicant falls into that category; if productivity is fine in your male-dominated workplace, don't put that in jeopardy by hiring a female.
Is this a joke?
edit: Judging by your other comments it's not. Jesus Christ.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
> stories like this encourages me to never hire women maybe you're just an asshole
Thank you for your respectful response. I’d like to say that, if you were in charge of hiring people, you’d try to calculate the risks when hiring someone. Hiring a women is unfortunately way too risky. You can find dozens of these posts with no proof whatsoever, but people will believe them and support the writer no matter what (some people even go and insult like you, because they can’t handle people having differe…
Nope, that isn’t a thing. I’ve hired a lot of people and never once considered that, nor has anyone else in senior management positions that I’ve worked with. You are just an asshole.
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#109Here's an idea: the gaming community as a whole needs to come together and think of the most offensive insults possible, that do not refer to race/gender/religion/nationality, but rather refer to player skill or the wider gaming culture. We can have a non-phobic, egalitarian swear-off!
Maybe I'm wrong about the offensiveness of these, but lamer and n00b are sort of neutral.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thank you for your respectful response. I’d like to say that, if you were in charge of hiring people, you’d try to calculate the risks when hiring someone. Hiring a women is unfortunately way too risky. You can find dozens of these posts with no proof whatsoever, but people will believe them and support the writer no matter what (some people even go and insult like you, because they can’t handle people having differe…
Please pm me what company you are almost CEO of. I want to be adequately prepared to avoid this place like the plague. Also, I'd like to point out, you said: >(some people even go and insult like you, because they can’t handle people having different opinions). >stories like this encourages me to never hire women, because they’re obviously over-sensitive and will at some point write a “I have been offended and this c…
What’s the relationship exactly? I’m not saying to not hire women because they think differently, but because they’re much more likely to react in a harmful way against a company with these types of posts. That has nothing to do with me presenting this fact and another user calling me “asshole” for expressing an opinion.