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Re: We’re underestimating the mind-warping potential of fake video

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I've been thinking about this and I think a tricky part is editing, since naturally people are going to want to edit the video for normal reasons but I think that will mess with the signature? I guess you could always have the unedited version posted and verified, but that has its own difficulties too.

This is why a sort of chain of evidence would be required.

This has me thinking the cryptography of the future is going to get wildly complex.

Re: We’re underestimating the mind-warping potential of fake video

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If only we had some kind of decentralized consensus system that could help us formulate truth on a societal scale...

I sense you're being tongue-in-cheek, but how would something like blockchain help this situation? (I genuinely don't understand -- can you walk me through how that tech would validate a video's authenticity?) Second, it would only help to validate that a video was taken (and possibly that it was not modified? But I suspect a great deal of video footage gets modified after capture, for light balancing and whatnot.) B…

Decentralized reputation system that uses Proof of Stake to validate the "truthiness" of an individual. Users validate an idea/content by sharing some of their reputation to lend credibility to another.

Re: We’re underestimating the mind-warping potential of fake video

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Technical knowledge doesn't seem requisite. Only independent verifiability. In the same way that signing keys are used by infrastructure & many who don't understand the nuances.

Ya you could get an end result where your video player included in the videos infos "officially verified by persons x y & z"

What if X, Y, and Z are within your own filter bubble and want you to believe the fake news?

Re: We’re underestimating the mind-warping potential of fake video

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I sense you're being tongue-in-cheek, but how would something like blockchain help this situation? (I genuinely don't understand -- can you walk me through how that tech would validate a video's authenticity?) Second, it would only help to validate that a video was taken (and possibly that it was not modified? But I suspect a great deal of video footage gets modified after capture, for light balancing and whatnot.) B…

Decentralized reputation system that uses Proof of Stake to validate the "truthiness" of an individual. Users validate an idea/content by sharing some of their reputation to lend credibility to another.

this assumes a basic level of intelligence that I really doubt we as a species possess. Don't you think the majority of red or blue tribe e-warriors would happily stake any amount of reputation on something they agree with, regardless of authenticity?

Re: We’re underestimating the mind-warping potential of fake video

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I sense you're being tongue-in-cheek, but how would something like blockchain help this situation? (I genuinely don't understand -- can you walk me through how that tech would validate a video's authenticity?) Second, it would only help to validate that a video was taken (and possibly that it was not modified? But I suspect a great deal of video footage gets modified after capture, for light balancing and whatnot.) B…

Decentralized reputation system that uses Proof of Stake to validate the "truthiness" of an individual. Users validate an idea/content by sharing some of their reputation to lend credibility to another.

Isn't think what PageRank is? I have a website; by linking to you, I am vouching in a public space that I believe in your truthiness?

Re: We’re underestimating the mind-warping potential of fake video

#108

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Decentralized reputation system that uses Proof of Stake to validate the "truthiness" of an individual. Users validate an idea/content by sharing some of their reputation to lend credibility to another.

Isn't think what PageRank is? I have a website; by linking to you, I am vouching in a public space that I believe in your truthiness?

Pages are not specific enough. We need RationalArgumentRank.
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