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New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Post by taneq »

TomMckenny wrote: post #70
salimmadjd wrote: post #5

Mr. Schulte had been charged last year in New York with possession of child pornography Very interesting! It almost seems like the pornography charges against him was a way to punish him but without prosecuting him for the actual leakage. Perhaps the government wanted to still point the fingers at someone else or avoid embarrassment?

States, even relatively benevolent ones, take any steps necessary to secure national secrets, even extra legal ones. Take the likelihood that a leaky contractor coincidently is a pedophile. One who works in security yet encrypts stuff with the same cellphone password everywhere. Balance that with the possibility that a motivated state actor could plant such files on a pc or alter logs on a server they are monitoring.…

This seems to happen remarkably often in cases like these. Remember the Assange rape allegations which turned out to be a setup? It's the next step up from "found drugs in their car".

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Post by anonymous5133 »

politician wrote: post #76
influx wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the IRC logs, and I'm skeptical that anyone not deeply versed in the lingo, tone, and character of that scene could fake them. It's not impossible, but it was pretty convincing to me.

Honestly? If we can generate a video of Barack Obama saying that "Killmonger was right" and render existing paintings in the style of other paintings, then we can absolutely generate culturally-sound text.

Excellent point.

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Post by 22837y »

taneq wrote: post #101
TomMckenny wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

States, even relatively benevolent ones, take any steps necessary to secure national secrets, even extra legal ones. Take the likelihood that a leaky contractor coincidently is a pedophile. One who works in security yet encrypts stuff with the same cellphone password everywhere. Balance that with the possibility that a motivated state actor could plant such files on a pc or alter logs on a server they are monitoring.…

This seems to happen remarkably often in cases like these. Remember the Assange rape allegations which turned out to be a setup? It's the next step up from "found drugs in their car".

Yeah, those charges are very real. They've continually been upheld in courts in both the UK and Sweden.

Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Post by nkurz »

empath75 wrote: post #87

It’s amazing how many people on hacker news jump to the defense of a traitor, let alone someone that’s involved in child abuse.

Perhaps they put greater emphasis than you on the difference between "is" and "is accused of being"? At least on the child abuse side, I'm pretty sure that most defenders are doubting the evidence rather than condoning the behavior.

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Post by travmatt »

salimmadjd wrote: post #5

Mr. Schulte had been charged last year in New York with possession of child pornography Very interesting! It almost seems like the pornography charges against him was a way to punish him but without prosecuting him for the actual leakage. Perhaps the government wanted to still point the fingers at someone else or avoid embarrassment?

Counterintelligence investigations and prosecutions probably take a long time, and the stakes are high enough that prosecutors want to make their case airtight. Charging him with the other crimes he’s believed guilty of is probably a good way of laying the groundwork for the later case, with the added bonus of greater leverage and hurting their financial (and therefore, legal) positions.

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Post by anonymous5133 »

saas_co_de wrote: post #93
influx wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the IRC logs, and I'm skeptical that anyone not deeply versed in the lingo, tone, and character of that scene could fake them. It's not impossible, but it was pretty convincing to me.

> I read the IRC logs Oh really, and did you ask how it is that IRC logs from 2009 just happened to be sitting in someone's back pocket? It is actually quite obvious from the conversation that "STURM" is a CI or other operative who is trying to entrap "JOSH". If this guy was breaking the law back in 2009 why did the CIA hire him exactly? Maybe we should be investigating how law enforcement and intel agencies use chil…

Completely agree. To me it seems unlikely that people working for the cia are pedos. It is possible but goes counter to all demographic studies on the characteristics of pedos. Most pedos are low income, uneducated social misfit types. The educated people who do it are mostly the outliers in the demographic studies.

Meanwhile all of these leakers having some sort of cp charge is a significant enough to look deeper into what is going on.

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Post by euebdb73 »

Cacti wrote: post #56
simion314 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, some bad iframe could load CP files and not display them, later if someone checks the network logs they can "prove" you visited and watched those urls. Combine this with the very specific ad targeting that is possible to pull of(like the guy that managed to make FB to show his ad to his roommate) and you get an easy and remote way to frame people

A hidden iframe was used to install an encrypted VM on the defendants computer, with an encrypted file on it, accessible using a password Only the defendant knew? There are also extensive file system logs indicating a history of use. That was faked too? And the IRC logs, those are fake? Come on man.

Or option 3, he was assigned to infiltrating a kiddie porn ring. Maybe to set him up. Many plausible explanations, but no proof of anything but his crimes.

Re: New Charges in Huge C.I.A. Breach Known as Vault 7

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Post by krapp »

taneq wrote: post #101
TomMckenny wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

States, even relatively benevolent ones, take any steps necessary to secure national secrets, even extra legal ones. Take the likelihood that a leaky contractor coincidently is a pedophile. One who works in security yet encrypts stuff with the same cellphone password everywhere. Balance that with the possibility that a motivated state actor could plant such files on a pc or alter logs on a server they are monitoring.…

This seems to happen remarkably often in cases like these. Remember the Assange rape allegations which turned out to be a setup? It's the next step up from "found drugs in their car".

>Remember the Assange rape allegations which turned out to be a setup?

Sorry, when did they "turn out to be a setup?"

This matter of fact phrasing implies evidence beyond a shadow of a doubt exists which should be commonly known, so if you could cite that, it would be appreciated.

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