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Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by usaphp »

what-the-grump wrote: post #99
usaphp wrote: post #60

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We went to a really good Ear nose throat doctor in San Diego hospital because our son had a long lasting runny nose, and they also told us to remove his tonsils and adenoids. I did not want to have them removed because of the involvement of sleep drugs necessary for operation, so we tried multiple ways to find the issue of the running nose, turned out it was something to do with the oil vaporizer they used in his pre…

Heh, you can do it the Russian way and yank them out while you are awake with just a topical, until your kid passes out from the pain :). That’s how my adenoids came out. Do not recommend.

Hmm, my wife had them removed when she was a kid in Russia and says it was not that bad.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by cm2012 »

usaphp wrote: post #101
what-the-grump wrote: post #99

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Heh, you can do it the Russian way and yank them out while you are awake with just a topical, until your kid passes out from the pain :). That’s how my adenoids came out. Do not recommend.

Hmm, my wife had them removed when she was a kid in Russia and says it was not that bad.

People have wildly varying sensitivity to pain.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by code_duck »

goldenkey wrote: post #93
beauzero wrote: post #85

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For smell. You can get Glade plugins or on the essential oils side a diffuser. We have used both in our family.

That is beyond retarded...and a school is supposed to instruct kids in the truthful ways of life? Spraying oil does NOT eliminate aromatic odor molecules. All it does is dilute their presence. In addition, all of these essential oils are from plants, which many people are randomly allergic or inflamed by. Essential oils are for a home. Spraying essential oils into public airspace is such a dick move. Sorry about your…

It would be better if most scent diffusers used essential oils, but unfortunately, most are made with VOCs and synthetic fragrance compounds that are known or suspected to cause many health problems, like Glade plugins. Febreze and Lysol are the same but with more VOCs.

I have severe sensitivity to fragrance and cannot tolerate synthetic fragrances, incense, or essential oils. Simply being near people who use artificial deodorant, shampoo, laundry detergent, dryer sheets or any other mainstream product that leaves them covered in synthetic fragrance is very uncomfortable. Essential oils are less problematic.

With essential oils, many of the chemicals present (such as linalool and d-limonene) break down as they oxidize after diffusion, and the oxidation products have different health effects than the original chemical, such as allergy sensitization and irritation.

My mother-in-law visited for two months, and left one of the rooms in my house saturated with Young Living essential oils from a diffuser. Six months later, I still can't go in there.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by astura »

DanBC wrote: post #71
robbiep wrote: post #26

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There are more than 35,000 tonsillectomies done in Australia every year (and more than half a million in the US). This is a highly routine procedure. In fact there is very clear guidelines on when GPS should refer for tonsillectomy: Tonsillectomy is indicated When young children have had >7 episodes in one year or >5 episodes in either of the last 2 years, or quinsys, or obstructive sleep apnoea. Tcj_pcx for some rea…

> Tonsillectomy is indicated When young children have had >7 episodes in one year or >5 episodes in either of the last 2 years, or quinsys, or obstructive sleep apnoea. But it used to be a lot more common. It used to happen after the first or second episode.

Back in the 60s, in some areas of the US, all kids had their tonsils out, even if they never had an infection. They'd do multiple siblings in a single day.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by astura »

godelmachine wrote: post #2

When my father was a child, there was a craze in town (India) that tonsils are bad and removing them will only do good. My grandma fell for it, among hordes of other mothers, and got my fathers tonsils removed. My father is a Gen X cohort, and now whenever the pollen season arrives (he is in USA now), he is totally helpless.

They probably aren't related; I have my tonsils and also have bad pollen allergies.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by eletious »

robbiep wrote: post #22
mehrdadn wrote: post #15

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> Without some functional mechanism, I'd be very wary of these kinds of data analyses. Kind of a tangent, but dumb question: wouldn't the sensible default assumption be that messing with your body is likely to be harmful unless proven harmless? Rather than the other way around? So if you're skeptical, shouldn't you be skeptical that it's harmless ?

It has not been until recent times that any form of messing around the body was for any reason other than self preservation or the improvement of quality of life. I am talking post-enlightenment/age of reason medicine here, not dark ages blood letting. And we still get it wrong, and still do things without enough of an evidence base, but when it comes to removal of adenoids, the reason it is done is because in those…

That isn't true - body modification has been a facet of human culture for a long, long time.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by dvtv75 »

ItsMe000001 wrote: post #88
kome wrote: post #73

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I am very happy about the professionalism and the humanity of Italian doctors and the Italian national healthcare service. Of course there are problems, waiting lists, lack of funding. But damn, it's good and (mostly) free. I feel lucky. Perhaps there are regional differences, but in my city, it's really good.

What do you base your judgment on? I think it heavily depends on what you needed services for thus far. I know people who thought just like you - until they themselves or a relative really needed them. Then they changed their opinion. But even then it depends on what exactly the issue is, I know at least one serious cancer case who got everything they could and then some for free - and they had money and shopped arou…

> By the way, my tonsils disappeared by themselves!

You're not alone there: my partner's tonsils "dissolved" when she was younger. I've never heard of this anywhere else until now.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by astura »

eip wrote: post #28
b34r wrote: post #10

I’ve begged my doctor to remove my tonsils and they refuse due to studies like this. I get tonsil stones every single month and at least one severe case of tonsilitis per year (usually closer to 3-4.) Anyone have strategies that worked to convince their GP to allow them to be removed? At this point I’m considering just paying out of pocket to get it done.

It's pretty simple to remove tonsil stones. Just get a lighted tongue depressor and a tonsil stone tool. Think of it as another maintenance task. Like brushing your teeth.

Simple for you, sure.

It's not always that simple to remove them for everyone, depending on a number of factors; the topography of your tonsils, the location and depth of the stones, shape of your mouth, your gag reflex, etc., etc.

You're also forgetting the fact that digging around in your tonsils causes irritation.

Re: Long-term health risks after having adenoids or tonsils removed in childhood

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Post by wb36 »

winslett wrote: post #98
goldenkey wrote: post #93

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That is beyond retarded...and a school is supposed to instruct kids in the truthful ways of life? Spraying oil does NOT eliminate aromatic odor molecules. All it does is dilute their presence. In addition, all of these essential oils are from plants, which many people are randomly allergic or inflamed by. Essential oils are for a home. Spraying essential oils into public airspace is such a dick move. Sorry about your…

The school is looking forward to your job application to be a preschool teacher. You'll have the following benefits: * $32k annual salary You'll have the responsibility to take care of the most precious little things that have every walked the earth. Your management are the parents, or as they like to call themselves "the people who pay your salary". These management want you to know they would do nearly everything y…

So sad but true
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