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Asus replaced the touchpad on its new ZenBook Pro with a 5.5-inch touchscreen

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Re: Asus replaced the touchpad on its new ZenBook Pro with a 5.5-inch touchscreen

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I’ve been trying to find a cheaper MBP replacement after 10 years with 3 MBP. Everything else is ugly. Some decent choices end up at the or worse price point as Apple.

I got myself a Thinkpad T480s. I ended up spending around 2.5k for a machine that has 24GB of RAM, 1TB of PCIe SSD and weights a pound less than a MBP. The keyboard is stellar, the screen is matte, and it has HDMI, both old and new USB ports, ethernet, and an SD card slot.

I would love one, but the screen gamut is bad and it's dim.

Re: Asus replaced the touchpad on its new ZenBook Pro with a 5.5-inch touchscreen

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post #97

We'll see if the touchscreen gets any traction. I'd like to point out that this is perhaps the only non Mac laptop that has a 15" screen and doesn't have a number pad. The keyboard is aligned with the center of the screen and the space bar is almost there too. Joy! I could buy this laptop only for that, even if with Linux I'll probably have to wait the next laptop before the touchscreen is of any use. But no, the RAM…

surface book 15" doesn't have a number pad too!

Re: Asus replaced the touchpad on its new ZenBook Pro with a 5.5-inch touchscreen

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post #97

We'll see if the touchscreen gets any traction. I'd like to point out that this is perhaps the only non Mac laptop that has a 15" screen and doesn't have a number pad. The keyboard is aligned with the center of the screen and the space bar is almost there too. Joy! I could buy this laptop only for that, even if with Linux I'll probably have to wait the next laptop before the touchscreen is of any use. But no, the RAM…

XPS 15 has the keyboard without numpad.

Re: Asus replaced the touchpad on its new ZenBook Pro with a 5.5-inch touchscreen

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post #97

We'll see if the touchscreen gets any traction. I'd like to point out that this is perhaps the only non Mac laptop that has a 15" screen and doesn't have a number pad. The keyboard is aligned with the center of the screen and the space bar is almost there too. Joy! I could buy this laptop only for that, even if with Linux I'll probably have to wait the next laptop before the touchscreen is of any use. But no, the RAM…

> The keyboard is aligned with the center of the screen and the space bar is almost there too. Joy! Oh the keypad hell, it's been such a RSI inducer on my back for years. What nonsense is this to put a keypad on the right side of keyboards which results, being right handed, in either the mouse being too far right or the keyboard being off center.

I keep the mouse below the external keyboard (instead of to the right), and it has worked out really well for me. It may not work well with laptops though, since the trackpad adds to the distance the hand must travel.

But I still wanna put it out there for all the external keyboard users.

Illustration: https://twitter.com/jeswin/status/680343382783213568

Re: Asus replaced the touchpad on its new ZenBook Pro with a 5.5-inch touchscreen

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post #102
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got myself a Thinkpad T480s. I ended up spending around 2.5k for a machine that has 24GB of RAM, 1TB of PCIe SSD and weights a pound less than a MBP. The keyboard is stellar, the screen is matte, and it has HDMI, both old and new USB ports, ethernet, and an SD card slot.

I would love one, but the screen gamut is bad and it's dim.

I think that the panel is on par with the one my 2013 MBP had, so yes, a little worse than the newer models. However I feel that the difference is more than made up by the matte finish especially in bright light situations. But then again I'm a software developer, I really don't have much use for wider gamut, I just need crisp text and not to see my reflection in the screen.

Re: Asus replaced the touchpad on its new ZenBook Pro with a 5.5-inch touchscreen

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Maybe I'm a bit conservative and/or sour, but I think this is a bad idea for two reasons. 1. It will require a lot of developer effort and testing on this specific device. I regard this as a move in the bad direction: Computer interfaces should be more unified, not less. 2. You're giving the touchpad two functions which are not compatible (and the second function is not necessary: we already have a screen!). If you'r…

Just use it in touchpad mode :) I think it's great idea. I usually have my iPhone exactly under the keyboard when I play games - this way I can read something between matches. Even reply in Skype to simple questions :)

Re: Asus replaced the touchpad on its new ZenBook Pro with a 5.5-inch touchscreen

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Not sure about this design, since it introduces modality where there previously was none. Obviously I haven't used this, so I can't comment on it that way, but I fear people accidentally tapping on things in the trackpad when it's in "touchscreen" mode when they really meant to move their cursor around.

That's exactly my concern as well. With current laptops, the touchpad is always the touchpad. When you touch it, the cursor moves, end of story.

I don't want to look down to make sure I'm not opening menus or whatever.

On the other hand, I can see a use for modal controls. Sliders, knobs and so on.

But then I would also like a dedicated pointing device as well, like a trackpoint.

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