Live data from Hacker News

Firefox 60 released

mozilla.org

101–110 of 265 posts

Re: Firefox 60 released

#101
post #73
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try a profile refresh

Tried. No success. I've also fully-uninstalled it with CleanMyMac, also to no success.

have you changed the resolution of your display to be "scaled" in system preferences? does setting it to "default for display" make FF usable again?

Re: Firefox 60 released

#102
I'm unreasonably happy that Native Module support is now enabled by default in Firefox, Safari, Chrome, and Edge!

My side-projects and experiments (like the WebGL2 "minecraft-y" demo - https://mrspeaker.github.io/webgl2-voxels/) now work out of the box: no build system, no transpilers, no dot-files. Happy day!

Re: Firefox 60 released

#103

I haven't tried Firefox since version 47 and haven't used it as my main since 37. I gave 61 (dev edition) a spin yesterday. All the extensions that make the browser usable for me were like 1990s geocities pages: "Under Construction" if they existed at all. They were just placeholders that lacked most features with links to bugzilla pages to vote for features to be added back into Firefox. Garbage collection was prett…

I know everyone has there own work flows, but how can you even keep track of that many tabs? After about 8 or 9, I find myself tabbing through half of a dozen tabs to get where I'm going, and at that point I realize I've added like 5 new tasks to my original stack of todos or research or whatever I was originally doing. At that point it's time to shut some tabs and concentrate on the original item. Also, once I've lo…

I've been doing large sessions ever since Opera introduced tabs in my teen years (2000). It's how I grew up and second nature now.

Tabs are great because they provide context both as a span of tabs showing how I got from point A to point B and as individual tab due to tab history backwards. I've been regularly saving my session files since ~2001 although I only have data from 2003 onward. It's great to load up an old one and see what I was doing on some old date.

http://superkuh.com/number-of-tabs-vs-date-2003.png (2003-2006) http://superkuh.com/number-of-tabs-vs-date-2017.png (2013-2017)

Nowdays the first couple hundred are almost static over a year or two. They are things I always want to have open. The most recent ~300 or so are in flux from week to week. There is a gradient. The older tabs and their favicons/etc form a landscape I know and can navigate just by a glance. The newer ones I can see the general topic of a group/span of tabs by clicking in and using tab search. I also use minimal browser skins/layouts to pack the max amount of tabs in.

Every couple months I'll go through and "clean" up a session by closing some and bookmarking others. The tabs that make it through this are added to the static landscape of useful things for current projects. Kind of like how sedimentary rock is layed down in layers.

Every year or two I'll start a new session. It always feels so directionless.

I do not use 'web app' sites like gmail or Facebook.

Re: Firefox 60 released

#104
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm unsure if this is actually Firefox fault. I'm running Linux (arch and Ubuntu), Windows and macOS, and Firefox is only slow on macOS, while my macOS machine is the second most powerful machine I have. Running Firefox in a Ubuntu VM on macOS is faster than running it natively on macOS.

So you’re proposing this is a macOS gremlin that appears only with Firefox? Don’t you think it’s more likely there is a bug in macOS-specific Firefox code?

Well the thing is it seems to only affect every other mac user even with otherwise identical hardware and os version.

If I had to guess I would chalk it up to a qc issue on some Apple specific chipset that just doesn't get hit by the other browsers code paths and just doesn't get noticed in other less used, less intensive apps.

How to diagnose it or work around it is beyond me.

Re: Firefox 60 released

#105

Does the new Firefox have something like RequestPolicy or NoScript?

Yes, the original dev migrated NoScript, but it's not a complete clone: https://blog.jeaye.com/2017/11/30/noscript/

What about RequestPolicy?

RequestPolicy can selectively block third-party content that NoScript will let through.

Re: Firefox 60 released

#107

I haven't tried Firefox since version 47 and haven't used it as my main since 37. I gave 61 (dev edition) a spin yesterday. All the extensions that make the browser usable for me were like 1990s geocities pages: "Under Construction" if they existed at all. They were just placeholders that lacked most features with links to bugzilla pages to vote for features to be added back into Firefox. Garbage collection was prett…

1000 tabs? Why? How?

Re: Firefox 60 released

#108
post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chiming in here. I would absolutely love to switch to Firefox for a host of reasons, ranging from "I don't want to use Google products" to "I love the tabs". Unfortunately, it's completely unusable for my workflow on a 2015 Macbook Pro with 16G RAM. I keep a variety of tabs pinned (JIRA, Zeplin, Gitlab, Jenkins, Invision, etc) and it seems as if they continue to hog a disproportionate amount of resources even when in…

I really want to switch to Firefox, so every once in a while I force myself to use it 'properly' for a week or two at least. Such a two week period has just ended, and while FF does feel snappier than before, I'm running into exactly the issues you describe. When using Firefox, my four-year old MacBook Air pretty regularly slows down to the point where my music starts stuttering and even force-closing FF takes a whil…

I wonder what's causing that on your computer, because I'm running Firefox on a late-2011 MacBook Pro without any issues, and that's with a ton of tabs opened (including a bunch of pinned tabs running multiple instances of Office 365 in separate containers, Slack, and so forth) and the usual crowd of extensions (UBO et al). It's bouncing between 0 and 5% CPU utilization.

Re: Firefox 60 released

#109

I'm unreasonably happy that Native Module support is now enabled by default in Firefox, Safari, Chrome, and Edge! My side-projects and experiments (like the WebGL2 "minecraft-y" demo - https://mrspeaker.github.io/webgl2-voxels/ ) now work out of the box: no build system, no transpilers, no dot-files. Happy day!

Native modules have brought the fun and immediacy back to development for me. I never quite got used to the delay and boilerplate of build systems, despite their power.

But performance seems a little inconsistent in production. For iOS Safari in particular, I've had apps take over a minute to load via modules, versus seconds when bundled. So I stick to rollup for deploy (maybe http2 is supposed to fix this?)

(great demo btw!)

Post reply on HN