Do we really need another crap to replace it? just shut it down.
Don’t Fix Facebook, Replace It
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Re: Don’t Fix Facebook, Replace It
#102I wonder what is the penetration of these kind of news outside our bubble here at HN, reddit and the like. I'm wondering the rest 2 billion people (which to a first approximation is probably just about everybody) care about this or are willing to care if few of their techie friends leave facebook. Is there some mathematical model + social science that could estimate the network effects of say, every techie person does leave facebook for good - what would happen to the rest?
Most of my non-techie friends have heard briefly about "some kind of scandal with facebook" but I cannot possibly appeal to them talking about "privacy" or they are stealing and selling your data - "Oh, everybody does that, you can't not use the Internet".
Re: Don’t Fix Facebook, Replace It
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is a good point. What baffles me is it took so much evidence from the medical community to convince people about smoking. And many still do it! Adverse effects of technology/social in general wouls be even more difficult to prove. I see technology addicts' rehabilitation centres a reality in near future.
> What baffles me is it took so much evidence from the medical community to convince people about smoking. That isn't really the issue, smokers have been aware of the negative consequences for quite a while. Many are okay with it due to the relief the smoking brings them from stress and other issues, it's a trade-off. Just like alcohol ain't that healthy for you but many people still chose to drink it. But on the oth…
For the effect on schizophrenia to explain the people who have difficulty quitting smoking, the population of people who have difficulty quitting smoking would have to be similar in size to (really, smaller than) the population of schizophrenics.
But I would bet that it's much larger.
Re: Don’t Fix Facebook, Replace It
#104Has anyone seen a product that was functional, polished, and enjoyable to use that would be capable of replacing Facebook? I haven't. Diaspora, Mastodon, Ello are the only things that I can think of, and none of them come close to matching the basic functionality and the "it just works" factor of Facebook.
Maybe someone should put in some resources to create a polished product and see what happens? It doesn't even have to be some idealistic p2p distributed system or anything like that, just a company who actively works to minimize the data they store and to allow users to control and manage their data effectively.
Re: Don’t Fix Facebook, Replace It
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Her constant argument was "I don't share anything private on FB" I've heard worse. Plain "I don't care" and "I like that people know what I do all the time". > It's like a smoking addiction I'd say that tt's more like a drug. Most people seem to seek for an attention (in a comments/likes form). I know few people who use even PhotoShop-like software to make themselves "more beautiful" to gather more attention; howev…
I'd say that tt's more like a drug It is literally like a drug, former FB execs have explained how they trigger dopamine responses in your brain
...because former Facebook executives are authorities on the operation of drugs?
Re: Don’t Fix Facebook, Replace It
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Turn on the feature to hide photos you're tagged in and tell people you know they're not to show photos of you to other people then? Or tell people not to take photos of you? If Facebook didn't exist, people would still show photos to people in other ways. If someone takes your photo they're more than likely going to show it to somebody so I would assume a low level of privacy by default.
> Turn on the feature to hide photos you're tagged in And how should I do that if I don't have a Facebook account? How do I tell Facebook to not steal my phone number and texts from phones of my friends?
> How do I tell Facebook to not steal my phone number and texts from phones of my friends?
https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/03/fact-check-your-call-an...
"Call and text history logging is part of an opt-in feature for people using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. ... This feature does not collect the content of your calls or text messages"
Re: Don’t Fix Facebook, Replace It
#107We did replace it, almost 10 years ago. It was called Diaspora[1], no one cared about privacy then. No one really cares about privacy now, at least not enough to do anything about it. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora_(social_network)
Man I remember the enthusiasm behind Diaspora like it was yesterday. I can still see in my minds eye that NYTimes article photo of the creators sitting around like they just invented cold fusion or something.
Allaire ColdFusion wasn't that big either ;)
Re: Don’t Fix Facebook, Replace It
#108What a naive article!
The reality is that we can either have a paid-for walled garden so that bad actors cant leach data, or a decentralised and trust-driven network.
It only takes a "friend" using a nefarious client/implementation to send all your data to a 3rd party.
Re: Don’t Fix Facebook, Replace It
#109I tried explaining my 20 year old cousin about FB. Her constant argument was "I don't share anything private on FB". She checks in on FB everywhere she goes. Posts her pics all the time. I could not instill any sense of concern for privacy. What I could conclude is that the appeal of social is too great to have any caution. Call me a pessimist, but I don't think FB is going anywhere. People will keep using it inspite…
> It's like a smoking addiction It's awesome to watch massive shifts in values and priorities. Smoking used to be seen as cool, sexy, even healthy. Now it's widely seen as unhealthy and disgusting. Same thing with high-fructose carbonated beverages. I remember people using terms like "retarded" and "gyp" without hesitation. Today even people who hate political correctness don't talk like that in public. It wasn't lon…
> I remember people using terms like "retarded" and "gyp" without hesitation. Today even people who hate political correctness don't talk like that in public.
Wrong wrong wrong. They still do these a lot.
Re: Don’t Fix Facebook, Replace It
#110What a naive article! The reality is that we can either have a paid-for walled garden so that bad actors cant leach data, or a decentralised and trust-driven network. It only takes a "friend" using a nefarious client/implementation to send all your data to a 3rd party.
Even a paid-for walled garden is likely not sufficient. Plenty of services you pay for and/or are the customer of still resell your data (see: banks & credit card companies).