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Re: Tesla Q1 2018 Vehicle Production and Deliveries

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Post by dmode »

ckastner wrote: post #5

> The Model 3 output increased exponentially, representing a fourfold increase over last quarter. This is the fastest growth of any automotive company in the modern era. If this rate of growth continues, it will exceed even that of Ford and the Model T. Way to spin all the production issues and delay of the previous quarter into a positive. They're way behind the goals they set for themselves, but instead of measurin…

It IS a massive positive. The only reason you are complaining is because Musk set some super ambitious goals. But if you read the report, they are already producing as many Model 3s as Model S and S has been in production for 5 years. It is a monumental achievement for a company that only has been selling mass produced cars from 2012

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Post by Fins »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #75
Fins wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how many EVs would Tesla be selling without heavy subsidies and a Musk effect? Besides, selling a car of Tesla's quality would be embarassing to every company on your list. Well, maybe not Suzuki, but probably to them, too.

All automakers receive EV subsidies. Why are non-Tesla automakers so bad at building EVs if they receive the same subsidy Tesla does?

Tesla's are the largest, though, since they have largest batteries.

Tesla builds EVs, that's the only thing they sort of can do (of course they can't actually build them at profit, but that's a problem for Tesla's shareholders). Others will build EVs when they can be profitably sold, because it isn't their only business.

Re: Tesla Q1 2018 Vehicle Production and Deliveries

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Post by badosu »

> The quality of Model 3 coming out of production is at the highest level we have seen across all our products.

I am dumbfounded by this statement, weren't tons of images and videos of huge gaps between sections on Model 3s?

He does not even acknowledge it happened, so I cannot assume that it is meant to say that the issues were fixed.

Am I missing something? Otherwise that's incredibly misleading.

Re: Tesla Q1 2018 Vehicle Production and Deliveries

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Post by justicezyx »

thisisit wrote: post #56
ckastner wrote: post #5

> The Model 3 output increased exponentially, representing a fourfold increase over last quarter. This is the fastest growth of any automotive company in the modern era. If this rate of growth continues, it will exceed even that of Ford and the Model T. Way to spin all the production issues and delay of the previous quarter into a positive. They're way behind the goals they set for themselves, but instead of measurin…

> Way to spin all the production issues and delay of the previous quarter into a positive. I don't really like Musk but sending positive messages in Investment relations is the key to keeping the company afloat. At one of my previous employers we lost top 4 customers and 10% of our revenue. But, the investment relationship site said - "We are up 1% in revenue, if we discount top 4 customers". If Tesla admits and says…

Dishonest is the norm of doing business That does not make them right

Re: Tesla Q1 2018 Vehicle Production and Deliveries

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Post by joezydeco »

TeeWEE wrote: post #83
joezydeco wrote: post #28

I was next to Model X at a stoplight last night. They look nice from a distance, but when you sit up close you can see where every panel and piece of trim just doesn't line up quite right. Sitting in my cheap little Mazda3, I've never noticed any problem with simple fit-and-finish details like that. I truly hope the Model 3s catch up, but I really think those owners will be in for a world of headaches after delivery.

I also saw a model X, and the doors didnt line up correctly with the chassis. Maybe it was not closed properly? Maybe it was bad construction. I'm not sure. Edit, added link: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/door-alignment-norma...

The rear doors are a 100% given, especially where the upper chrome trim meets the C pillar. It's like they just threw up their hands at that part of the manufacturing spinup.

But, the longer you look, the more mistakes you see.

Re: Tesla Q1 2018 Vehicle Production and Deliveries

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Post by dragontamer »

icegreentea2 wrote: post #33

They built 9766 Model 3 in Q1 and were able to surge out 2000 in the last 7 days, and claim a doubling in their Model 3 production rate over Q1. Something doesn't really add up there. Regardless of their spin their Q1 must have been hellish on the guys and gals on the floor and in production support. I hope they can do a sustainable ramp soon so my friends can get their Model 3s. I would REALLY love to see what their…

I can't find the actual memo. But Bloomberg wrote about a leaked memo.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-29/tesla-urg...

> Tesla will suspend Model S and Model X production Thursday and Friday because it’s ahead of target on building those this quarter, Peter Hochholdinger, vice president of production, wrote to employees in a March 21 email obtained by Bloomberg News. An unspecified “limited number” of workers who build those vehicles will have the option to work on the Model 3 line on those two days and Saturday, he said.

They moved workers from the Model S & X lines over to the Model 3. And an unspecified number of "volunteers" also got cracking to make the final spurt.

Re: Tesla Q1 2018 Vehicle Production and Deliveries

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Post by MadcapJake »

Someone1234 wrote: post #36
adventured wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their critics are very loudly proclaiming Tesla is an immense failure, that the Model 3 is a failure, and that they're going bankrupt in a matter of months. The FUD being broadly directed at Tesla is astounding and reeks of bias of one sort or another. The other major automakers are running years behind where Tesla is at today. That's where the embarrassment should be today: those automakers are still gleefully selli…

> Their critics are very loudly proclaiming Tesla is an immense failure, that the Model 3 is a failure, and that they're going bankrupt in a matter of months. This is a classic straw man. You've created a fictional persona which you then describe as: > The FUD being broadly directed at Tesla is astounding and reeks of bias of one sort or another. How about we stick to what other posters you're replying to are actuall…

I would agree with the parent, as a laymen casually observing HN and the major news outlets this is really what it feels like, a complete shift in news/commentator opinions of Tesla.

Re: Tesla Q1 2018 Vehicle Production and Deliveries

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Post by davedx »

TeeWEE wrote: post #83
joezydeco wrote: post #28

I was next to Model X at a stoplight last night. They look nice from a distance, but when you sit up close you can see where every panel and piece of trim just doesn't line up quite right. Sitting in my cheap little Mazda3, I've never noticed any problem with simple fit-and-finish details like that. I truly hope the Model 3s catch up, but I really think those owners will be in for a world of headaches after delivery.

I also saw a model X, and the doors didnt line up correctly with the chassis. Maybe it was not closed properly? Maybe it was bad construction. I'm not sure. Edit, added link: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/door-alignment-norma...

That’s a photo from 2 years ago?

Re: Tesla Q1 2018 Vehicle Production and Deliveries

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Post by dmode »

Fins wrote: post #61
adventured wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their critics are very loudly proclaiming Tesla is an immense failure, that the Model 3 is a failure, and that they're going bankrupt in a matter of months. The FUD being broadly directed at Tesla is astounding and reeks of bias of one sort or another. The other major automakers are running years behind where Tesla is at today. That's where the embarrassment should be today: those automakers are still gleefully selli…

Calling Model 3 a luxury vehicle is rather a stretch. Even Model S lacks things Hyundai one third the price has. While no other company can come close to Tesla in selling half-baked (or altogether nonexistent) stuff to the gullible, packaging Panasonic batteries in an overpriced golf cart isn't something that any company that knows how to actually build cars would be particularly concerned about.

Lol, I have a Hyundai and a Model S. What you wrote makes zero sense

Re: Tesla Q1 2018 Vehicle Production and Deliveries

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Post by bluGill »

adventured wrote: post #80
Fins wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how many EVs would Tesla be selling without heavy subsidies and a Musk effect? Besides, selling a car of Tesla's quality would be embarassing to every company on your list. Well, maybe not Suzuki, but probably to them, too.

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability-owner-satisf... Tesla in fact ranks with Acura on quality, above Volvo, and just below Volkswagen and Ford. The low rating on Mercedes should be pretty embarrassing for them, they're merely one quality notch above Tesla and comparable to Ford.

That is owner satisfaction, which means nothing. It is common for that list to have a car to have a significantly different rating depending on what the logo on the hood it. If the car has the GM brand it will be rated lower than if it has the Toyota brand, even though the car is EXACTLY the some other than the brand.
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