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Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by binaryanomaly »

azinman2 wrote: post #72
ReverseCold wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux is actually good now for desktop use. I install it (= Fedora or Antergos w/ GNOME) on everything now and it just works(tm). Not a single thing has been broken across two modern PCs and a laptop.

Question is “good for what?” It simply doesn’t have the polish, or flexibility that I’d need to effectively stay on it for long. I always end up spending longggg times customizing things only to feel little integration, little support, and a lack of decent third party software. Sketch is Mac only. Spotify barely has a Linux client. Certainly no photoshop, medocire native email clients, zero IM that integrate with any…

FYI - Spotify does have a Linux client and it's quite decent https://www.spotify.com/ch-de/download/linux/

Otherwise I agree.

Depending on your needs linux is not on par with Windows/MacOS yet, especially when you need commercial non dev/tech near software, unfortunately.

Whether that is a no go or not is an individual decision.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by mherrmann »

hambos22 wrote: post #98

I just tried it and I really liked it. It looks very promising. I applause author's statements about its business model ("The goal for me is to create the best file manager for Mac, not to become rich."). I have tried everything, from Double Commander, to Forklift,Pathfinder and fman. I was fman user for about a year (OSX) but it was slow and the quick look (with plugins) was unresponsive and crashed all the time so…

Sorry you didn't have a great experience. I'm working on fman 1.0 with literally 10x better performance.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by binaryanomaly »

Nice! I like it and see potential. Was quite disappointed of all the OSX file managers so far and I think I've tried them all.

After staying for a bit with pathfinder I'm back to finder. While not super decent it still doesn't get into my way too often.

Something more advanced would be welcome though and I would even be willing to pay for it, given it suits my needs. That means though I rather wait for v1.0 because I miss quit a lot of features / ui usability in the current state.

Make it the Sublimetext of file managers and you have a customer.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by vetinari »

bluecat22 wrote: post #70
bluecat22 wrote: post #67

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Most people won't but somebody else will make the builds and then offer those builds. Example: CentOS

See that's why I see CentOS as not necessarily a very good thing. It dents into the idea of making money with open source product.

Though in case of CentOS it probably helps more than it hurts. For RHEL, the product being sold and bought is not the bits, but the support.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by jaclaz »

>Marta is a dual-pane file manager. Most of the time you work with two directory panes placed side-by-side. This allows you to do the basic file operations such as copying or moving files in a fast and efficient way, because you can see both source and target directories, and you can copy or move files directly, without copy-pasting it.

Just in case, it could be categorized as a OFM (Orthodox File Manager):

http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/index.shtml

What started it all is the Norton Commander for DOS.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by ethelward »

azinman2 wrote: post #72
ReverseCold wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux is actually good now for desktop use. I install it (= Fedora or Antergos w/ GNOME) on everything now and it just works(tm). Not a single thing has been broken across two modern PCs and a laptop.

Question is “good for what?” It simply doesn’t have the polish, or flexibility that I’d need to effectively stay on it for long. I always end up spending longggg times customizing things only to feel little integration, little support, and a lack of decent third party software. Sketch is Mac only. Spotify barely has a Linux client. Certainly no photoshop, medocire native email clients, zero IM that integrate with any…

Spotify for Linux is exactly the same as Spotify for Windows oral macOS. KDE connect allows for SMS integration within the desktop.

I'm not going to tell you to go Linux if you like macOS, but please don't spread misinformation.

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by mherrmann »

jaclaz wrote: post #106

>Marta is a dual-pane file manager. Most of the time you work with two directory panes placed side-by-side. This allows you to do the basic file operations such as copying or moving files in a fast and efficient way, because you can see both source and target directories, and you can copy or move files directly, without copy-pasting it. Just in case, it could be categorized as a OFM (Orthodox File Manager): http://ww…

If you're interested in a little history: https://fman.io/blog/dual-pane-file-manager-history/

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by jalk »

userbinator wrote: post #78
tesseract wrote: post #75

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The canonical 80s/90s Mac OS answer would be, just open 2 (or 3 or 4 or n) file browser windows next to each other. Arguably the workflow of moving/copying stuff between windows was a key motivator for the creation of windowing systems in the first place. But today that multi-window workflow, while of course still possible, somehow feels less salient... the DOS/MDI-era Windows UI norm of "one window ≈ one application…

I'm mainly a Windows user and I regularly have a dozen or more explorer windows open, all showing directories of interest to my current work. From that perspective, using a file manager with only two effective "windows" feels more constraining.

Two pane FM's are optimized for mouseless operation which your workflow is not. I.e ctrl-c alt-tab ctrl-v compared to just F5 for copying files

Re: Marta, file manager for macOS, goes beta

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Post by microtonal »

ReverseCold wrote: post #28
mrgordon wrote: post #25

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This all or nothing mentality doesn't often end up being useful in practice. For example, try doing some deep learning on Linux with CUDA without installing closed source NVIDIA drivers. The important detail is who provided the software and in this case most people are going to trust Apple or NVIDIA significantly more than a small third-party software developer they've never heard of. (FWIW many of us tried running L…

Linux is actually good now for desktop use. I install it (= Fedora or Antergos w/ GNOME) on everything now and it just works(tm). Not a single thing has been broken across two modern PCs and a laptop.

Linux is actually good now for desktop use. I install it (= Fedora or Antergos w/ GNOME) on everything now and it just works(tm).

If I got a dollar every time I heard this... I have a Linux machine at home, but GNOME still crashes 50% of the time when I switch the screen off/on. If it switches on without crashing, many applications are LoDPI until I restart them.

The machine doesn't always come back properly from sleep. Sometimes there are display artifacts, sometimes I cannot show windows of running applications.

This is all on well-supported hardware (RHEL-certified Dell Precision, an AMD GPU supported by amdgpu, etc.).

Linux has become pretty great, but it's definitely not a 'just works' experience on a lot of hardware and for a lot of uses.

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