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Magic Leap Raises $461M from Saudis

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Post by matte_black »

kozak wrote: post #75
walrus01 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but depending on your political views, you also have to tolerate living in florida , which can be a distasteful experience to people whose cultural, religious and political values more closely align with the residents of portland, OR.

Could you please explain to a non-American what do you mean here? Sounds like something that is interesting to know :)

Don’t listen to him, he’s never lived in Florida. It’s fine.

Half the people in Florida are liberals, it is in fact a swing state that can go either red or blue in any election. If you blanche at the thought of living anywhere that isn’t a liberal stronghold or you shiver at the idea of interacting with a conservative you won’t like it; if you’re a normal person you’ll be just fine.

Re: Magic Leap Raises $461M from Saudis

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Post by goshx »

walrus01 wrote: post #100
goshx wrote: post #99

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> as a random white person, caucasian floridians I have met are racist as hell. You would not believe the things that come out of their mouths when there are no ethnic/religious minorities within earshot and they believe you to be a person that might agree with their worldview. Where did you come to in Florida? I haven't met people like what you are describing. Or perhaps you brought up the subject with them? When yo…

Merritt Island / Cape Canaveral area. In a work environment, I in no way brought up the subject of anything controversial race/religious/ethnic related. At the time I worked for a market sector that does a lot of telecom-related work overseas and in developing nation environments. Probably with a higher than usual percentage of ex military people. What i meant by "As a random white person", by virtue of me being pale…

Well, you are not getting the picture of an entire state by that experience alone.

I live in South Florida and the mix of culture here perhaps helps to alleviate racism. But yes, I agree with you that racism is alive an well in the US. That was very noticeable when I moved here from Brazil.

Re: Magic Leap Raises $461M from Saudis

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Post by walrus01 »

cinquemb wrote: post #92
michaelbuckbee wrote: post #74

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Theranos' tech plain didn't work. If you're looking for a historical analogy that fits better, I'd suggest Segway. There's a number of parallels with Magic Leap. Both have engineering founders. Both founders made their first big money in medical tech (Kamen with stents and Abovitz with Mako Surgical). Where things got away from Segway was on the PR + Hype front and that seems where Magic Leap is at as well. Magic Lea…

> …going to lay the foundation for what replaces mobile phones I having a hard time seeing how this technology (and AR glasses/devices in general, at least what we hear of it) is going to be more of utility in the future than the billions of people with cheap smartphones are today. I think brain(neural) computer interfaces (transmitters/sensors) have a better chance of leaping over the smartphone than anything coming…

I have to agree with you. Getting people to wear any sort of AR glasses, no matter how small and light they are, is going to be a lot higher barrier than convincing people to keep 6" screen sized high-end phablet/phones in their pockets and purses. Advancements in flash memory density, low power CPU and I/O are continuing to come rapidly for mobile phones. The near future will have phones with 8 or 16GB of RAM, 256GB of storage, 802.11ac wave2/802.11ax wifi, LTE radios that can sustain 500 Mbps with MU-MIMO, and so on.

Re: Magic Leap Raises $461M from Saudis

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Post by walrus01 »

jbob2000 wrote: post #93
igloofoo wrote: post #17

Changing the world one murdered-by-starvation Yemeni at a time. How do you accept funding from oppressive, dictatorial, mysoginist regimes and then claim to “make the world a better place”? Sigh. The political implications are so ironically cringe-worthy

There is no such thing as clean money. Everything we've built in the west was done on stolen land, on the backs of slaves and migrants. So whether it's $450mil that came off the backs of Yemenis or $450mil that came off the backs of natives and mexicans - it's all the same.

saying "we did terrible things in the past" does not excuse us from the responsibility to, present tense, refuse to become complicit in ongoing atrocities.

Re: Magic Leap Raises $461M from Saudis

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Post by Holomakerbot »

edshiro wrote: post #89

When will we have a _real_ product? And what is the company's strategy? I mean they are trying to bring something new to the market (read something much more mainstream than Google Glass), and aside from the fact that the hardware is not ready, I doubt they have reached an affordable enough price level for general public adoption nor developed killer apps yet. My only thinking here is that they expect to be acquired…

Their strategy is to get devs on board first with their creator edition launching this year. SDK in two weeks at GDC.

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Post by Maybestring »

maxxxxx wrote: post #66
ahtu123 wrote: post #50

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But but but they're our allies! There's definitely some selective enforcement of our ideals. As long as it doesn't get in the way of military or business it's fine. This is the country that financed 9/11. It's not "racist" to be skeptical of Saudi Arabia.

They buy a lot of expensive weapons so they are an ally.

They buy a lot of expensive weapons using a gift card from uncle Sam.

You've got the causal relationship backwards.

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Post by Holomakerbot »

walrus01 wrote: post #73
root_axis wrote: post #57

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> look like regular glasses This just isn't possible in the foreseeable future. Maybe someone will figure out how to fit enough processing power for decent AR into the "regular glasses" form-factor within the next couple decades, but there is no discernible path to a viable battery that could work in that form-factor even if we didn't have to also make room for the GPU. Additionally, none of this takes into account h…

as a person who has spent a fair amount of time researching the current state of the art for battery technology, both in watt-hours per kilogram and watt-hours per cubic cm: I have to agree with you. Anything with sufficient processing power to drive a high resolution, 60 fps AR display is going to need a good amount of battery. And that amount of battery is not going to fit into a google glass or hololens sized thin…

That's why long term Magic Leap's hip-worn battery/processor and Apple's likely to be iPhone connected to glasses solution will trump the all-in-one Hololens style design.

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Post by maxxxxx »

Maybestring wrote: post #106
maxxxxx wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They buy a lot of expensive weapons so they are an ally.

They buy a lot of expensive weapons using a gift card from uncle Sam. You've got the causal relationship backwards.

What gift card? I thought they are living off oil.

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Post by patrickaljord »

Holomakerbot wrote: post #107
walrus01 wrote: post #73

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as a person who has spent a fair amount of time researching the current state of the art for battery technology, both in watt-hours per kilogram and watt-hours per cubic cm: I have to agree with you. Anything with sufficient processing power to drive a high resolution, 60 fps AR display is going to need a good amount of battery. And that amount of battery is not going to fit into a google glass or hololens sized thin…

That's why long term Magic Leap's hip-worn battery/processor and Apple's likely to be iPhone connected to glasses solution will trump the all-in-one Hololens style design.

Very good point. But even iPhones can't do HD 60fps video + bluetooth for too long. I guess if it's just used to send AR text and tiny UI that could last longer.

Re: Magic Leap Raises $461M from Saudis

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Post by InvisibleCities »

walrus01 wrote: post #73
root_axis wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> look like regular glasses This just isn't possible in the foreseeable future. Maybe someone will figure out how to fit enough processing power for decent AR into the "regular glasses" form-factor within the next couple decades, but there is no discernible path to a viable battery that could work in that form-factor even if we didn't have to also make room for the GPU. Additionally, none of this takes into account h…

as a person who has spent a fair amount of time researching the current state of the art for battery technology, both in watt-hours per kilogram and watt-hours per cubic cm: I have to agree with you. Anything with sufficient processing power to drive a high resolution, 60 fps AR display is going to need a good amount of battery. And that amount of battery is not going to fit into a google glass or hololens sized thin…

Not to mention that I would like to avoid getting second degree burns on my temples every time my glasses recognize my Uncle Ron.
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