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132 year old message in a bottle found on West Australian beach

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Re: 132 year old message in a bottle found on West Australian beach

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post #9

I am really amazed that a ships log from 132 years ago was retained and is still available. Is this a common thing?

Interesting if digital records will be quite as permanent as paper record; Will the problem of data loss be solved some day? Hard to know.

Depends on whether they're just being used for day-to-day work or, like a ship's log, they're actively getting archived. I think atm, printing and storing is still the way to go with that.

Re: 132 year old message in a bottle found on West Australian beach

#102

Write a note on your iPad. Remove that silly pin number, turn it off. Put it in a bag. Put it in the attic. Live your life and forget all about it. 130 years later, the now obsolete technology is found. Boy they are gonna have a hard time reading that note you left. This is when we get to appreciate a medium such as text. Our information is becoming more and more complicated to the point that it might become impossib…

You see it happening already, people are finding e.g. old tape drives from MOS Technology (http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/5256) which could contain valuable information about the design of some older processors and such, but they're unreadable and/or rotted. Same for older films, which are finally getting painstakingly restored and digitized.

TL;DR if you're making something, and it turns into something great, make sure your older stuff, the stuff you did to work towards it, is archived somehow.

Re: 132 year old message in a bottle found on West Australian beach

#103

That message lasted longer than any URL on the web will.

Pessimistic. The web hasn't even been around for that long, and the first URLs are still alive - here's the first one: http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html

Re: 132 year old message in a bottle found on West Australian beach

#104
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Lego are durable and don't rot is, I would say, a feature not a bug. (It would be better if they were practically recyclable, OTOH.)

Lego are made from ABS, and ABS can be recycled.

ABS can be recycled, but normal municipal recycling (which has to take and sort multiple recyclables mechanically) can't practically sort ABS pieces the size of Lego bricks for proper recycling, which results in them ending up in landfills from municipal recycling. If you set up dedicated collection infrastructure for Lego bricks and delivered them in huge lots (or merged them with another waste ABS stream) for delivery to an ABS recycler you could recycle them, but the logistics and economics don't seem likely to be workable for that.

Re: 132 year old message in a bottle found on West Australian beach

#105
post #15

What time is it. Where am I. What is my name. Where am I from. Who is my captain. Where have I come from. Where am I going to. This note in a bottle knows more about itself than I do.

Well, it knows where it wants to go to. Arrival is not guaranteed. This may still be more than you and I know about ourselves, though.

Wow, UDP packet from 132 years ago :-)

Re: 132 year old message in a bottle found on West Australian beach

#106

Write a note on your iPad. Remove that silly pin number, turn it off. Put it in a bag. Put it in the attic. Live your life and forget all about it. 130 years later, the now obsolete technology is found. Boy they are gonna have a hard time reading that note you left. This is when we get to appreciate a medium such as text. Our information is becoming more and more complicated to the point that it might become impossib…

You see it happening already, people are finding e.g. old tape drives from MOS Technology ( http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/5256 ) which could contain valuable information about the design of some older processors and such, but they're unreadable and/or rotted. Same for older films, which are finally getting painstakingly restored and digitized. TL;DR if you're making something, and it turns into something great,…

Would vinyl records make a better long-term storage medium than CDs or magnetic tapes?

Re: 132 year old message in a bottle found on West Australian beach

#107
post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You see it happening already, people are finding e.g. old tape drives from MOS Technology ( http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/5256 ) which could contain valuable information about the design of some older processors and such, but they're unreadable and/or rotted. Same for older films, which are finally getting painstakingly restored and digitized. TL;DR if you're making something, and it turns into something great,…

Would vinyl records make a better long-term storage medium than CDs or magnetic tapes?

Given the same environments; not really. Given heat and/or UV, vinyl is going to warp before thermoplastic (or foil glue -- except the cheapest cds). Given humidity tape is going to go bad quickly, but so will vinyl.

Re: 132 year old message in a bottle found on West Australian beach

#108
post #88
post #71

I found a message in a bottle in Hamburg. Never did figure out what it says though. If anyone on HN is up for the challenge, here's a photo of it: https://photos.app.goo.gl/TximCkxHoliDmnwy1

Could you tell a bit more about where, when, how you found it?

I found it while canoeing along a canal in Hamburg, July of 2016. That's all the detail I remember.
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