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Re: What happens when I choose to “Suppress Ads” on Salon?

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Post by TeMPOraL »

nikanj wrote: post #86
wskinner wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s called proof of work: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

The giant pile of dirt on my back yard is proof that I did hours of hard work with a tea spoon. Much less efficient than a shovel would have been, as a metaphor for hash algorithms designed to be difficult. Why is that proof of work of any value, to anyone? Hard work, just for the sake of hard work, is a great ideal to the the previous generations - but we traditionally have based our economy on how much your work be…

> The only thing of value is the work itself. Quite zen, even.

Or would be, if GPUs could experience enlightenment.

One day, maybe.

Re: What happens when I choose to “Suppress Ads” on Salon?

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Post by Kiro »

pdkl95 wrote: post #22

The increased use of browser mining has made it a lot easier to convince people to globally disable Javascript (or install noscript/etc). Security concerns are rarely convincing, and tracking can be hard to explain, but paying for more electricity and worse UI response time are things people actually care about.

> worse UI response time

The miner is run in a WebWorker so shouldn't affect the UI response time.

Re: What happens when I choose to “Suppress Ads” on Salon?

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Post by Kiro »

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #72
pmontra wrote: post #23

Does mining work also in reader mode? Probably not. There is also NoCoin. Anyway, I rather lend them some CPU than get ads on my screen.

I would rather do neither. My CPU, my bandwidth, I decide what runs. If they want money, they can put up a paywall.

> I decide what runs

Exactly. No-one is forcing you. You are confusing this with sites starting the miner without consent.

Re: What happens when I choose to “Suppress Ads” on Salon?

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Post by Kiro »

mrtksn wrote: post #7
megadethz wrote: post #2

CPU mines Monero not Bitcoin.

Why do I keep seeing this everywhere on the internet? There's no technical reason not to mine bitcoin on CPU.

From the Coinhive website:

> Monero is different. To mine Monero, you have to calculate hashes with an algorithm called Cryptonight. This algorithm is very compute heavy and – while overall pretty slow – was designed to run well on consumer CPUs.

> There are solutions to run the Cryptonight algorithm on a GPU instead, but the benefit is about 2x, not 10000x like for other algorithms used by Bitcoin or Ethereum. This makes Cryptonight a nice target for JavaScript and the Browser.

Re: What happens when I choose to “Suppress Ads” on Salon?

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Post by cribbles »

For those unfamiliar, Salon.com is a new media company that publishes articles on current events from a left-leaning perspective - for example, "Bitcoin could cost us our clean-energy future" [1]

[1] https://www.salon.com/2017/12/06/bitcoin-could-cost-us-our-c...

Re: What happens when I choose to “Suppress Ads” on Salon?

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Post by stevewillows »

imron wrote: post #97
stevewillows wrote: post #80

For me, this calls back to a need for micro-transactions much like Flattr, but for all sites. Set your own category budget (e.g. $10/m for 'news'), and then the extension keeps tabs on the sites you visit and the categories they fall under. At the end of the month, the budget is divided up equally. It doesn't sound like a lot, but even a dime or two per person adds up to more than these companies are seeing from the…

Check out the brave browser and its payment settings.

yes! that's along the lines I was thinking. On the surface its such a simple idea, but it doesn't seem to be widespread. I also like that it takes into account time spent on the site, but not as the sole metric.

In my view, this will be part of the future of a somewhat ad-free internet.

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