A fun comparison: Munro on the BMW i3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqiBWfsDTAA Munro on the Tesla Model 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCIo8e12sBM
One of those companies is a multi-million dollar client for them, and one is not.
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You can also take a headrest of the front seat and use its prongs to break a window.
Not a bad idea, but are those prongs hard enough? I thought window-breaking tools have a ceramic or tungsten (?) point on them to start the glass fracture. I'm not going to test it, but I imagine myself desperately bouncing the metal prongs off the inside of a window.
You have to hit the edges of the side windows, they are the weak spot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i5rycLJ3D8&feature=youtu.be...
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#103A fun comparison: Munro on the BMW i3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqiBWfsDTAA Munro on the Tesla Model 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCIo8e12sBM
It does make me hope that BMW are working on another i3 style car that isn't so damn ugly.
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#104A fun comparison: Munro on the BMW i3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqiBWfsDTAA Munro on the Tesla Model 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCIo8e12sBM
BMW i3 has the worst designed interior of any car i’ve ever been in and the road noise is insane. I’d take a few annoyances that come with the first run of Tesla’s startup manufacturing over the i3 any damn day.
I thought the inside of the i3 was ok, just that it looked ugly from the outside
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of those companies is a multi-million dollar client for them, and one is not.
I've seen similar comments everywhere I stumbled across this story. It's an easy takeaway, but that's not how automakers look at competitive benchmarking. Working with a company like Munro is an engineering decision. Munro breaks cars down, reverse engineers everything they possibly can, and draws as many conclusions about production methods as possible. Engineers with other automakers use this data to learn from how…
The stuff that Munro is pointing out is so fundamental that I don't see how there's bias in it. The craziness that there is some hidden circle underneath the front hatch that you have to know to open and pull out a couple of leads to attach to a 12V battery is maddening. The fire department would have to do this to be able to cut the cable that's in the front hatch.
I can see there being a Model 3 recall over that kind of stuff. What's the point of over the air software updates if your hardware is unsafe.
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BMW certainly doesn't pay them to rip apart an i3. Their competitors do.
BMW certainly might: > Plus, the engineers told me, the cost models are proven. Some manufactures, they said, actually hand their own parts to Munro asking them to use their model to see how close they can get to the actual cost of manufacture. Munro says their numbers always come very close, and that they’ve even been accused of having insider information. Munro isn’t just there to help engineers learn about how the…
Hopefully Tesla takes seriously what Munro is saying.
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#108A fun comparison: Munro on the BMW i3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqiBWfsDTAA Munro on the Tesla Model 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCIo8e12sBM
For me, in both of these videos, the audio is severely mangled (across different browsers). Have never experienced anything like this on youtube before.
Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening?
Edit: solved, some strange driver issue it seems.
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#109Or they could just rent a car and disassemble it without the owner’s knowledge, as Mercedes is alleged to have done … https://jalopnik.com/mercedes-parent-company-daimler-dismant...
I guess I don't understand the surprise about this?
In the 1970s my father worked at a company that supplied parts to car manufacturers, and it was a normal thing - if Company X say they want a backlit switch with the clicky feel of a Company Y Model Z, they hired a Company Y Model Z, took the switch off and measured it.
According to my father, the car industry and the car rental industry all know this is commonplace.
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>manual mechanism for opening the rear doors from the inside Brother of my close friend literally burned to death in a Hyundai with no manual override for unlocking/opening doors. Granted he had modified the car's stereo system with custom speakers and the roadside mechanic did not do a good job with it which caused short circuit/fire. But had he been able to manually open the doors he would still be alive today. And…
> And to think Tesla is all batteries that have strong chance of starting a fire - ugh. A gasoline car has plenty of flammable material as well.
Right, but the batteries are more vulnerable to starting a fire in collisions than gasoline. I think there were cases of Tesla car batteries starting fire on impact.