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BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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> Just wanted to make that distinction. Useless pedantry. A scam is a scam no matter what you call it. Getting caught up deep in terminology is a great way to for shysters to obfuscate any wrongdoing. These "business structures" are all part of the broader category called "things that are a scam".

I think GP tried to make the point that not every pyramid-shaped scam is illegal .

Herbalife just escaped being labelled a pyramid scheme a couple of years ago and seems to hover around the edges of legality: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/herbalife-f...

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I'm just going to leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbR1SXIje1U

Hard to believe that people watched this and still invested in this shitshow.

I've been to a MLM conference once (or well, a conference by a company who distributed purely via MLM) and I saw people buying into it as well. When I googled them (this was back around 2006), I saw tons of domains and websites with these products all from people with their own "company" (lol).

You know what sells? Sampling, and success stories. The first thing I got told is that I must believe in the product. Yeah, that's true with any product, but where's the proof? Well, you can convince people with sampling. As for the success stories, people high on the pyramid are around at these conferences as well. The brother of my aunt (cold side) had earned more than a million with this MLM scheme. Which got me to check out the conference in the first place. At the conference he appeared to be well respected within the scene. I didn't know this beforehand (my aunt told me afterwards even though she got me in contact with him) but what did he do before that? Well, he was in a cult. Now he was a hardcore Christian in a MLM scheme. As they say, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree."

I'm not at all surprised there's these MLM-esque videos related to cryptocurrency out there. As far's I'm concerned, BitConnect is just the tip of the iceberg. We haven't witnessed the mask falling from Tether yet (many red flags have been raised though), nor Bitcoin in general (many red flags as well). Bitcoin value has been going down the past days, btw, even before BitConnect announcement. You can esp see the decline from Jan 15.

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Nice to see a photo of something other than two golden Bitcoins. People who take & sell photographs of golden Bitcoins must be making almost as much money as Bitcoin investors, jeez.

I'm interested in investing in this golden bitcoin phography business. Will there be an ICO?

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Nice to see a photo of something other than two golden Bitcoins. People who take & sell photographs of golden Bitcoins must be making almost as much money as Bitcoin investors, jeez.

I'm interested in investing in this golden bitcoin phography business. Will there be an ICO?

Of course! Step right up: https://www.kodak.com/kodakone/default.htm

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#106

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> the youtubers would have had to phrase their claims very carefully Ponzi schemes are one of those things you can't disclose your way out of. Sort of like HIPAA [1]. If you violate HIPAA, "we disclosed our non-compliance to the patient" is an inadequate--and borderline aggravating--excuse. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_a... Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.

Is disclosing yourself as not a lawyer enough to excuse from giving legal advice?

It's nonsense about letting people claim they thought you were their lawyer. Like the myth about cops not being allowed to lie about being cops.

I am a lawyer, this is legal advice and you are now my client

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#107

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> the youtubers would have had to phrase their claims very carefully Ponzi schemes are one of those things you can't disclose your way out of. Sort of like HIPAA [1]. If you violate HIPAA, "we disclosed our non-compliance to the patient" is an inadequate--and borderline aggravating--excuse. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Insurance_Portability_a... Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.

Is disclosing yourself as not a lawyer enough to excuse from giving legal advice?

I got told this from a friend that studied law (but is not a lawyer). That to put a disclaimer of "I am not a lawyer" when giving opinion about legal matters is so that they will not be prohibited from practising law in the future, or prosecuted for misrepresenting or impersonating a lawyer.

I guess someone that has studied law more or is an actual lawyer can weigh in on this in an unofficial capacity (because we are not paying them for advice!).

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#108
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If you trade it for bitcoin someone is selling you that bitcoin for tether. That person will go ahead and trade that tether for some other coin.... rinse repeat, but in the end someone is holding that Tether, if exchanges stop accepting tether eventually your only option is to cash out to USD. USDT is basically being used as a trade coin, to avoid cashing out (maybe to avoid taxation) or to speculate on USD with the…

If $200M was printed today, then it likely doesn't exist. Hilarious that this is going on. At some point the music has to stop.

They don't really "print" a $200million. Finex explanation is that when a user requests USDT they issue new USDT from their USD reserves.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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for example: https://www.chemtrailvaccines.com/ Not really a fraud though, they WILL send you a bottle of mints as described

> 100% proven to combat all symptoms caused by government released chemtrails Can't argue with their claims either, the mints really do combat all the symptoms caused by government released chemtrails.

I didn't know chemtrails caused bad breath!

/sarcasm

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