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Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

#101
I'm certainly not in snap's demo, but

> You can think of it as a more sophisticated Best Friends algorithm that makes it easier to find the friends you want to talk to, when you want to talk to them.

I can't for the life of me understand why I'd need something like this to help me find my existing friends when I want to talk to them.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

#102

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I get around this by taking pictures with my normal camera and sharing them on a site I control and only allowing certain people access Then I don’t worry about being “screwed over” by a private company that can make its app however it wants Welcome to HN, where the free market suddenly doesn’t exist, and you’re supposed do get what you want for free

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Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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Really? Every friend of mine complains about the UI. Just yesterday a group of friends (early 20's) were commiserating over how nothing in Snapchat made any sense and just doing something as simple as getting to your friends list was difficult and unintuitive, requiring a couple false starts where you use the wrong swipe and end up somewhere you didn't mean to.

What if I told you that was part of the genius design? This "frustrating design" forces curiosity out of users to discover the app for themselves and encourages them to share these features with friends further augmenting the network effect. Based on which semi-hidden features get shared/used the most, Snap can A/B test faster than you'd imagine.

While I don't think the author thinks it forms an academic quality taxonomy anymore, I do like the ideas in "Players who Suits MUDs": http://mud.co.uk/richard/hcds.htm

Especially the idea that lack of friendly ux leads to more communication and cooperation between players. I don't think it's completely unreasonable that forcing network effects in "Mealsgate" (how do I even install pokemon go) might help form stronger network effects - which in turn is what surveillance machines/skinner boxes like snapchat needs in order to spread.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get around this by taking pictures with my normal camera and sharing them on a site I control and only allowing certain people access Then I don’t worry about being “screwed over” by a private company that can make its app however it wants Welcome to HN, where the free market suddenly doesn’t exist, and you’re supposed do get what you want for free

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Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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Sorry what? Why would making the app actually take photos mean you have to see the Kardashians?

I believe the point mcny is making is that the developers chose to focus on the social/media split thing instead of the camera API thing. "Making the app actually take photos" means devoting resources to that instead of devoting them to this new feature they've announced today.

> the developers chose

This seems unlikely.

More likely scenario: the developers chose to keep their jobs and did what management told them.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

#106

Android's Camera API has existed for _literally years_ to take high-quality photos and these guys are still just taking a screenshot of the viewfinder and calling it a day. It's been like this forever and Snap has refused to fix this. I have yet to come across any other app on Android that utilizes the camera this way. The photos are complete garbage. And here they are, trying to add more 'features' into an app where…

Thanks, I've done my bit in return by citing your comparison URL in my (relevantly critical) review of the app on the Play Store.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

#107

Android's Camera API has existed for _literally years_ to take high-quality photos and these guys are still just taking a screenshot of the viewfinder and calling it a day. It's been like this forever and Snap has refused to fix this. I have yet to come across any other app on Android that utilizes the camera this way. The photos are complete garbage. And here they are, trying to add more 'features' into an app where…

My 4k screen caps sure do look damn good. Sorry your phone is trash!

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

#108

Evan of Snapchat talks about “performing for your friends” as a strange “side effect” of Snapchat. But the instinct to perform is native to the Snapchat medium. I think this is a problem. I went to a concert a few weeks ago. The people beside me would stand still for 10 minutes and then someone would pull out Snapchat. The whole group would turn around, flash a smile and start dancing for the camera. 9 seconds later,…

That's a pretty dramatic take. Social media use in general probably declines with age, and although I'm not sure how you'd quantify it, I bet that using social media primarily as a form of social proofing declines even quicker with age. All young people "perform" because their self-awareness is on extra high alert and their personalities are half-baked. This has been true since the dawn of high schools.

That's a pretty dramatic take.

It's just "the medium is the message" applied to Snapchat.

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

#109

Evan of Snapchat talks about “performing for your friends” as a strange “side effect” of Snapchat. But the instinct to perform is native to the Snapchat medium. I think this is a problem. I went to a concert a few weeks ago. The people beside me would stand still for 10 minutes and then someone would pull out Snapchat. The whole group would turn around, flash a smile and start dancing for the camera. 9 seconds later,…

I don’t know, isn’t this the same as all social media? I remember reading something along the lines that playing golf is posted on Facebook twice as much as doing the dishes, yet people spend 5x more time doing the dishes. And if we step back from social media, what about regular pictures? They’re supposed to take candid moments of the real world, but even if we’re having a bad day, we smile and act happy for picture…

Not only do I think its true of all social media, I think it's less true of Snapchat because the medium has less of a memory.

What social media do people think is more candid?

Re: Introducing the new Snapchat

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post #109

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I don’t know, isn’t this the same as all social media? I remember reading something along the lines that playing golf is posted on Facebook twice as much as doing the dishes, yet people spend 5x more time doing the dishes. And if we step back from social media, what about regular pictures? They’re supposed to take candid moments of the real world, but even if we’re having a bad day, we smile and act happy for picture…

Not only do I think its true of all social media, I think it's less true of Snapchat because the medium has less of a memory. What social media do people think is more candid?

there's nothing candid about snapchat. Candid is heartfelt. Not something that disappears in 20 seconds.
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