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Fedora 27 released

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Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by smichel17 »

jononor wrote: post #99
ben_jones wrote: post #91

Is there a curated up-to-date list of reasons somewhere on the internet that explains to a naive end-user why he/she should pick a given distro?

Pick whatever the most competent and helpful Linux-user around you uses... The distos are pretty much all the same, just different in the details.

This is really good advice. I'm a Fedora user who has set up several "non-technical" users (quoted because I have qualms about that term) with gnu/linux. At first I was giving them Ubuntu since it's the most common and supposedly "regular person friendly". After multiple experiences struggling to provide advice or support, ended up switching them to what I use. It's just easier when I already know the ins and outs of the system.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by bubblethink »

sbov wrote: post #67
dualogy wrote: post #35

Major props to the Fedora project, really gotta get this off my chest as I had Yet Another "distro-hopping just still ain't worth it even in 2017" moment yesterday. Somehow I have accumulated 4 laptops still-in-running-condition currently. Every rare once in a while, on a lazy weekend or when caught with a cold, I feel I should experimentally check out other distros and/or DE/WM combos than the singular one that has…

Installing Fedora on my laptop with an nvidia graphics card was a frustrating experience, but I don't know if it's any better for other distros. The install process was insanely slow, but more frustratingly certain input fields would register a single keypress as anywhere from 1 to 30 keypresses. I knew there was issues with nvidia cards, but wasn't ready for the keypress issue. I was still able to get a basic instal…

Get the negativo repo. That's the most painless experience.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by jorvi »

kevinherron wrote: post #60
jadbox wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i3 with Fedora runs flawlessly for me out of the box: dnf install i3 i3status dmenu i3lock

On what version of Fedora? Wayland has been enabled by default since F25 and i3wm does not work in Wayland... nor do the Nvidia drivers last I tried it...

There is Sway, which is i3 ported to Wayland.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by noir_lord »

jononor wrote: post #99
ben_jones wrote: post #91

Is there a curated up-to-date list of reasons somewhere on the internet that explains to a naive end-user why he/she should pick a given distro?

Pick whatever the most competent and helpful Linux-user around you uses... The distos are pretty much all the same, just different in the details.

Pretty much.

I still recommend Xubuntu for new users since they can leverage the massive package base and stable releases of Ubuntu and move to something like Fedora (or Arch or whatever) later.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by noir_lord »

jacek wrote: post #25
lima wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's very cool. For users of older Gnome versions, note that you can change both the font scaling (text-scaling-factor) and global UI scaling factors. If you, like me, have a screen that needs 1.5 scale, you can either set UI scale to 1 and font scale to 1.5, or UI scale to 2 and font scale to 0.5. That's almost as good as real fractional UI scaling.

I have the same problem - 14 inch WQHD screen. I use 1x UI scaling, 1.6x font scaling. I also made a custom css for GTK that resizes window decorations/buttons that make them more usable. The solution is not perfect though. I am having some problems with Qt apps. Fractional scaling on 3.28 will allow you to have different scaling for each display. Will also be more consistent across different apps (Gtk, Qt, electron,…

Same, 2560x1440@14" scaling at 1.6.

Numix window decorations scale (where Arc doesn't) - I use Numix anyway so it works out, can't wait for proper fractional scaling since I'm a cinnamon user we'l likely get it around the same time.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by milkmiruku »

ben_jones wrote: post #91

Is there a curated up-to-date list of reasons somewhere on the internet that explains to a naive end-user why he/she should pick a given distro?

They might benefit from checking out https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux - includes a nice though two years out-of-date flowchart from /g/.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by otto_ortega »

subway wrote: post #95
otto_ortega wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is a collection of scripts for which you can easily read and edit the source code "worse" than installing a rpm package or a compiled program? The thing about signature validation can be easily resolved with a simple text replace. About dependency tracking: as I said, it is not a package manager and it uses dnf under the hood, which already does that. Unless you only install open source software AFTER doing a ful…

I know plenty of folks who've ridden motorcycles helmetless for years without any issue. It's a collection of script written in a non-idempotent manner, and run in an uncontrolled, undefined environment. The benefit of binary packages is that you have a reasonable idea that the package will consistently build in a well defined environment (the base build chroot for the OS + the defined dependencies in the package). T…

You are changing your argument... You were originally talking about security and whatever you define as a "clean system" not about stability and robustness and on that regard my point remains valid:

Binary packages are not intrinsically more secure that plain text scripts that you can easily audit.

If you feel safer because you are executing by hand a bunch of commands that can be automated with a script that's ok.

In my case I rather spend that time doing something more productive.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by subway »

otto_ortega wrote: post #108
subway wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know plenty of folks who've ridden motorcycles helmetless for years without any issue. It's a collection of script written in a non-idempotent manner, and run in an uncontrolled, undefined environment. The benefit of binary packages is that you have a reasonable idea that the package will consistently build in a well defined environment (the base build chroot for the OS + the defined dependencies in the package). T…

You are changing your argument... You were originally talking about security and whatever you define as a "clean system" not about stability and robustness and on that regard my point remains valid: Binary packages are not intrinsically more secure that plain text scripts that you can easily audit. If you feel safer because you are executing by hand a bunch of commands that can be automated with a script that's ok. I…

Build integrity is inherently a security issue.

Re: Fedora 27 released

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Post by jandrese »

s_kilk wrote: post #2

Not the most exciting release, but boy am I glad Fedora exists. I switched over from Ubuntu around this time last year and it's been so much better, more stable, better packaging, more up-to-date packages by default. A really great OS. And on my Thinkpad it runs flawlessly.

I'm mostly still using Ubuntu, but I did install a Fedora 26 box to see how well it works these days. I've been pretty happy with the results. Ubuntu is just a little too conservative with their package management sometimes and Fedora seems like a decent answer to that problem.
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