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Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

#101
Using Electron is a bad idea: it's not secure. Electron has many security vulnerabilities. The latest version is still based on old Chromium (58 & 59) so it inherits many of the security vulnerabilities published in Chromium 60, 61 and 62

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

#102

Design is somehow looking related to Telegram...

And nearly indistinguishable from iMessage on OSX.

Chrysler shouldn't make their tires square just because Ford was first to the circle.

I'm happy they're not burning cycles reinventing the wheel.

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

#103
post #32
post #30

> Linux distributions supporting APT, like Ubuntu or Debian Oh come on guys. Don't forget Fedora. Fedora means SELinux. SELinux means you are getting the people who value security.

I think you underestimate the number of people whose first post-installation task is setenforce 0

https://stopdisablingselinux.com/

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No.

This comment is not helpful.

Here you go: "One major problem Telegram has is that it doesn’t encrypt chats by default, something the FBI has advocated for. “There are many Telegram users who think they are communicating in an encrypted way, when they’re not because they don’t realize that they have to turn on an additional setting,” Christopher Soghoian, Principal Technologist and Senior Policy Analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union, told Gizmodo. “Telegram has delivered everything that the government wants. Would I prefer that they used a method of encryption that followed industry best practices like WhatsApp and Signal? Certainly. But, if its not turned on by default, it doesn’t matter.”"

source https://gizmodo.com/why-you-should-stop-using-telegram-right...

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

#105
post #5

Another 205MB Electron App to the collection, at least it's 50MB smaller than Wire.

eul is a light (4 MB) native desktop client for all popular messengers: https://eul.im Signal support is coming later this year. Right now it supports Slack, Skype, Facebook, and Gmail.

Pidgin is native, mature and open source

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

#106
post #87

Why no web app? Moxie closed https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Desktop/issues/723 without giving any reasoning. Can someone link me to a blog post that explains why Signal is refusing to release a web version? I cannot run another Electron app on my computer, I simply do not have the RAM left. Signal as a web-app would allow me to put it inside of Franz or Rambox, where all my other chat services live. Right n…

Not sure what I'm missing here, but I see Signal using 37.5MB of memory. That doesn't seem egregious, but I'm also not familiar with what other Electron apps use.

I don't think you're looking at all the processes:

A fresh launch without logging in or having it run for any period of time immediately uses 211.2MB:

  1. Signal: 58.3MB
  2. Signal Helper: 128.6MB
  3. Signal Helper: 24.3MB
After logging in and starting a few conversations I quickly see the total rise to over 350MB.

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean Facebook?

They are referring to companies like GitHub [1] and Slack [2]. [1] https://githubengineering.com/how-four-native-developers-wro... [2] https://slack.engineering/growing-pains-migrating-slacks-des...

There's no native Facebook messenger for desktop, either.

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

#108
post #101

Using Electron is a bad idea: it's not secure. Electron has many security vulnerabilities. The latest version is still based on old Chromium (58 & 59) so it inherits many of the security vulnerabilities published in Chromium 60, 61 and 62

See here for the security issues published in Chrome stable releases in those versions:

https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2017/07/stable-channel...

https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2017/09/stable-channel...

https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2017/10/stable-channel...

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am very privacy conscious How did you evaluate Telegram to decide that you trust it?

I don't trust them, it's just that I can use them. The real problem is requiring a smartphone.

The desktop version never required a running smartphone (one might even be able to complete signup using the app in an emulator and a dumbphone or a VoIP provider to receive the SMS, not sure)

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

#110

Why no web app? Moxie closed https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Desktop/issues/723 without giving any reasoning. Can someone link me to a blog post that explains why Signal is refusing to release a web version? I cannot run another Electron app on my computer, I simply do not have the RAM left. Signal as a web-app would allow me to put it inside of Franz or Rambox, where all my other chat services live. Right n…

In-browser e2e encryption is vulnerable to targeted attacks on specific individuals.

The service (either intentionally or by virtue of being hacked) can serve up Javascript crypto code that either uploads plaintext, or subtly backdoors the crypto so it can be decrypted. And they can do this to just a single user, so unless you audit the Javascript every single time you load the page, you'd never know.

A signed app is more secure, because a backdoor would have to be distributed to everyone, greatly increasing the chances of it being discovered.

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