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Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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You can get a similar view in Chrome by turning off the filter button and the two view buttons in the network toolbar, then ctrl-click on any of the columns in the table to hide the ones you aren't interested in.

Yeaaaah... not a Chrome-phone-home fan, so I'll make do with what FF has to offer. But thanks for the suggestion, hope it helps someone else. :)

Then why not use Chromium? You get the same development experience with less Google.

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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Yeah, SoftICE, I remember buying Hackerzvoice (a French newspaper-like hacking magazine) which included SoftICE tutorials on how to crack WinRAR license verification. (for educational purposes of course) I was amazed that I could breakpoint and debug any running app. I miss SoftICE. I read this a while back from someone who work for the company which owns SoftICE copyright : https://reverseengineering.stackexchange.c…

Any idea what people use now instead of softice?

I've been poking at radare2 for a while now. Really great CLI debugger (works in windows as well).

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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"The story of Firefox and Firebug is synonymous with the rise of the web. We fought the good fight and changed how developers inspect HTML and debug JS in the browser. Firebug ushered in the Web 2.0 era. " I love, used and appreciate firebug as much as the next guy but this is a bit much. Its a great product that helped alot of people it's not an ideal to fight for nor "ushered" in web 2.0.

I was building web products professionally before and after Firebug and the difference was staggering. It opened up the full possibilities of CSS and JavaScript like no other tool before it.

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

#106

"The story of Firefox and Firebug is synonymous with the rise of the web. We fought the good fight and changed how developers inspect HTML and debug JS in the browser. Firebug ushered in the Web 2.0 era. " I love, used and appreciate firebug as much as the next guy but this is a bit much. Its a great product that helped alot of people it's not an ideal to fight for nor "ushered" in web 2.0.

Having been a developer since Web "1.0" it's not exactly wrong, but I think you're interpreting that incorrectly.

Without Firebug a lot of the JS development that was basically required for Web 2.0 sites would have been much much slower and even more complex to maintain.

It didn't create Web 2.0 (arguably that had been a thing since 2003-2004, and the term dates to ~99) but it did usher it into mainstream development due to making it less painful to create that content.

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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> I absolutely abhor the network panel in Chrome. What do you mean? There are plenty of ways to filter down the activity tab in Chrome if the problem you're experiencing is that the volume of requests is too high to be useful.

It is interesting that Network Panel in Firefox has built-in simple Postman-like tool [1] for editing request which you have already made. [1]: https://imgur.com/a/hBkmq // Chrome has copy as curl command.

You should log out and back in if you haven't already. That screenshot contains almost your entire session token.

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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Yeaaaah... not a Chrome-phone-home fan, so I'll make do with what FF has to offer. But thanks for the suggestion, hope it helps someone else. :)

Then why not use Chromium? You get the same development experience with less Google.

If I were to guess, it's probably the same reason I don't like/use Chrone Dev tools, it seems overwhelmingly noisy with options/information I neither need or care about. Firebug was basically the opposite of that.

Re: Saying Goodbye to Firebug

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Visual Studio did front-end web debugging back then?

The parent claimed the following: "Firebug didn't just raise the bar for web debugging, it pretty much raised the bar for all debugging tools." I dispute the idea that Firebug raised the bar for non-web debugging tools.

Guess I missed the latter claim.
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