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Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Everyone is all about trusting science and medical professionals right up until it comes to dietitians... Then suddenly random bloggers and cherry picked studies come flying out of the wood work, much like the anti-vaccine crowd. And I say this with the belief that Americans eat too many carbs, and a higher fat/lower carb diet would be better for people. I just don’t understand this disconnect.

> Everyone is all about trusting science and medical professionals To counter this, I'v been reading a lot lately about how science has a publish-or-perish problem / unreproducible results problem / influence by industry problem. And the medical profession / pharmaceutical industry is complicit in the opium epidemic. Many of the medical drugs, doctors use, outside of infectious disease control, don't actually work in…

> And the medical profession / pharmaceutical industry is complicit in the opium epidemic.

You're painting with a very broad brush here. Many pharmaceutical companies product no opiates at all. Furthermore, most doctors won't prescribe them at all, especially after the DEA crackdown. Even if you get seriously hurt, you might have a tough time finding a pain management specialist, unless you live in one of a handful of geographic locations.

> don't actually work in the sense that you take them for a period of time and are cured.

That's kind of a ridiculous standard. For example, take HIV, antiretroviral medications don't cure AIDS, but if you take them, you'll die of old age or heart disease instead of AIDS, and you live an extra 20-30 years. That's pretty incredible. Or look at medication for seizures, they don't cure the heretofore unknown cause of seizures, but do prevent them nonetheless. Would you rather take meds and have no seizures or avoid a medication that doesn't actually cure you and die because you fell down the stairs during a seizure?

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

#102
post #17

Are that kind of drinks popular in North America and if, then why..? I'm having problems understanding why would anyone want to consume something like that.

> I'm having problems understanding why would anyone want to consume something like that. Nothing of what Soylent Green does is new, companies like Fresenius, Nestle, Abbot and whatnot have been manufacturing balanced liquid nutrition for medical needs for decades. I'm far more surprised these established players in the enteral nutrition market haven't started their own push for something like this, trying to sell th…

Do you have any examples of products that are meant to be a meal replacement, and that contain all necessary nutrients?

> random guys buying bulk ingredients on Amazon and mixing them up in moldy warehouses

Is this based on something, because I highly doubt they are sourcing ingredients from amazon, this is needlessly inflammatory. And moldy warehouses, do you really have so little to say about Soylent you have to make things up?

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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But the "fat is bad" idea is fairly recent as well, really only since the 70s.

OTOH, it's not like fat was so abundant before, neither from meat nor dairy.

That's only true if you have the peculiar western idea that meat is just the lean muscle tissue of the animal.

If you count bone marrow, brain, organ meats, blood, etc. an animal is pretty high fat.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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I find it funny that on their powder's product page[1], they champion themselves for "Transparent Labeling", and right under that put the "bad" stuff in barely legible grey. 1. https://www.soylent.com/product/powder/

Maybe they arrived at that gray by increasing the transparency of the normal text color.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

#105
I always hated Soylent. Their bold and false marketing (things like "We solved nutrition.", "Complete nutrition no matter which flavor you choose."). If it was me, I would ban them everywhere, not just Canada, because of that false advertising.

It is one thing, making a drink and selling it, and another marketing it like that. It was very painful from the start listening how 2 guys with no background SOLVED NUTRITION. And their choice of ingredients is bad in my opinion. Main ones are soy and sunflower oil. Really, find me at least one balanced nutritionist who would recommend sunflower oil in large quantities (hint : omega 3:6:9). Soy has it`s problems too. Then they mix some vitamins and minerals in, but you skip on all of the micronutrients and anything else from real food that is not in Soylent. Also very low fiber. Then your digestion will have problems too eating liquid only for long term. Etc, etc.

If you need occasional meal replacement, there are dozens of well-established companies which make one, with much better quality and price in both liquid or powder form.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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This is because Soylent is making up for deficiencies in its ingredients. They need to add Vitamin D, calcium, and vitamin a palmitate, for instance, because there is no Vitamin A or D or calcium in the canola oil and sunflower oil. These nutrients are already abundantly present in Skyr and cream. I wonder if the bioavailability is even good in Soylent. I know some of these nutrients are much more bioavailable in ani…

Just looking through the nutrition info in the links you gave, there's zero iron and vitamin C in Skyr and cream. Yes you can get those nutrients from other sources, but it's a lot harder than just mixing two ingredients into a drink.

I allways wondered why soylent bothered with micronutrients...

Isn't it much easier and safer to just find the right mix of carbs/fats/protein and take a vitamin pill?

I recall hearing of the soylent creator having somewhat serious problems with micronutrients dosage...

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Serious questions for people that drink this stuff: My breakfast is often Siggi's 4% skyr (thick yogurt): http://siggisdairy.com/product/plain-whole-milk-24oz/ Plus Organic valley heavy cream: https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/cream/ Ususally about 300g + 100g, then sometimes some granola (oats, almonds, sometimes honey), for body. Soylent is: * 37g carb * 21g fats * 20g protein What I'm eating is much healthie…

I suspect that long-term acolytes of Soylent are victims of marketing, rather than having made rational nutritional choices. Their product does seem to be targeted toward a particular psychological niche.

God forbid if people were allowed to make their own choices.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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Serious questions for people that drink this stuff: My breakfast is often Siggi's 4% skyr (thick yogurt): http://siggisdairy.com/product/plain-whole-milk-24oz/ Plus Organic valley heavy cream: https://www.organicvalley.coop/products/cream/ Ususally about 300g + 100g, then sometimes some granola (oats, almonds, sometimes honey), for body. Soylent is: * 37g carb * 21g fats * 20g protein What I'm eating is much healthie…

I suspect that long-term acolytes of Soylent are victims of marketing, rather than having made rational nutritional choices. Their product does seem to be targeted toward a particular psychological niche.

Soylent replaces pb&js, dominos and eating out. Continuing to attempt to overcome my inability to care enough to sink more time into nutrition is the irrational choice. A moving to a product with both a superior nutrition and effort profile seems pretty rational to me.

Re: Soylent can no longer ship to Canada

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post #19

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Well here's an example - I'm having jaw surgery tomorrow and will be on a liquid diet for a week. I stocked my fridge up with Soylent so that I'd have something decent-tasting and relatively nutritious to drink while I'm feeling like garbage. I also will make shakes, but sometimes soylent is just easier.

Why not buy a commercially made meal replacement product that has been on the market for decades and is endorsed by nursing and medical professions and is used in hospitals? Its not like no one had ever done meal-replacement foods before Soylent came along. Its not new, its not cheaper, its not as well regulated, its not as flavorful. Seriously, why would you buy Soylent (which has had numerous beta 'failures') over…

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