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Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

#101

Post by hellbanner »

saberworks wrote: post #46

Frustrated by the new "screenshots" tool. The "save" button automatically uploads your screenshot up to mozilla servers. The "download" button saves it to your computer. It seems completely backwards. The "save" button should save it to my computer (there's no reason call something a "download" when it's already local). The "download" button should be replaced with an "upload & share" button that sends it to mozilla'…

Screenshots, what.. ? Is this even if you're not signed into Mozilla?

I remember recent HN submissions about Mozilla sharing information with Google...

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

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Post by 51Cards »

damnyou wrote: post #97
51Cards wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO Gutting your developer base is seldom good.

The web developer base is far more interesting and relevant to Mozilla's mission than the extension developer base, and Quantum is the only shot Mozilla has at regaining mindshare there. Looks like it's working, though.

Here's the thing though. Developers understand the technical differences between Chrome and Firefox. To 95% of general users they don't see why they are different. They look about the same and hey, I get Chrome offered to me every time I visit Google so why not use that? The average user doesn't see the difference that gives them any reason to want Firefox. Now the extensions base will be essentially the same, stripping away those that were truly unique. The extensive UI control is disappearing. Firefox (IMO) is slowly stripping away the things that make it unique to 90% of its user base who just see the UI.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

#103

Post by actionscripted »

51Cards wrote: post #100

Tab Mix Plus, DownloadThemAll, RightToClick, Status-4-Evar... all regularly used by me, none migrated yet. Not to mention the loss of Classic Theme Restorer's control over the UI highly disappoints me. I really really dislike being locked into the "Chrome Style" UI. I've disliked it since Chrome was released.

I'm using Nightly (v58a) and you can customize the UI a lot more than in the current release (v56).

You can move back/forward and refresh, auto-hide certain buttons like downloads, add items to the "overflow" menu, toggle full/compact mode, toggle title bar, toggle a "grab" space...there are a lot of options.

They've also added proper support for light and dark icons for plugins. So now buttons like 1Password don't stand out with a dark theme.

To me it feels like a return to the level of customization I'd gotten used to in older versions of Firefox. And FWIW, this is what mine looks like: https://i.imgur.com/seJZeg6.png

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

#104

Post by frandroid »

Aeolos wrote: post #74
FruityFaiz wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here, I have both Firefox nightly and safari but I tend to use safari more still...

There is one thing that stops me from using Safari (or Chrome/Opera) on Mac OS: the lack of middle-click autoscrolling. Firefox lets me do a triple-finger tap and then scroll a page smoothly at a consistent pace. This is wonderful for reading sites such as HN without getting RSI from doing the same motion again and again.

Use the spacebar?

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

#105

Post by terminalcommand »

smnrchrds wrote: post #98
satysin wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm ashamed to admit that one thing that might keep me on Chrome is the trove of passwords in my sync'd up account. I was the same until a few days ago when I finally took the time to switch to a real password manager. A HN'er recommended Bitwarden[0] and I have to say it was pretty painless and I am much happier knowing my passwords are with a third party (not that I have any real issue with Google but I did worry…

I would like to switch to Bitwarden, but I don't know how I can assure I can trust them with all my passwords. Are any of the founders well-known security experts? Has the service been recommended by respected security researchers? I am not a security expert, so I cannot assert their trustworthiness myself. I know that you can run your own server. But even then, without auditing the code, configuring a firewall, and…

I use KeePass as my password manager, it doesn't sync automatically across all my devices, I occasionaly transfer my keys database to my phone.

You could always upload your encrypted key database to dropbox, and keep your private key on your phone, on your computer, or on a USB stick, if you want automatic sync.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

#107

Post by [deleted] »

saberworks wrote: post #46

Frustrated by the new "screenshots" tool. The "save" button automatically uploads your screenshot up to mozilla servers. The "download" button saves it to your computer. It seems completely backwards. The "save" button should save it to my computer (there's no reason call something a "download" when it's already local). The "download" button should be replaced with an "upload & share" button that sends it to mozilla'…

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Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

#108

Post by kirillkh »

actionscripted wrote: post #103
51Cards wrote: post #100

Tab Mix Plus, DownloadThemAll, RightToClick, Status-4-Evar... all regularly used by me, none migrated yet. Not to mention the loss of Classic Theme Restorer's control over the UI highly disappoints me. I really really dislike being locked into the "Chrome Style" UI. I've disliked it since Chrome was released.

I'm using Nightly (v58a) and you can customize the UI a lot more than in the current release (v56). You can move back/forward and refresh, auto-hide certain buttons like downloads, add items to the "overflow" menu, toggle full/compact mode, toggle title bar, toggle a "grab" space...there are a lot of options. They've also added proper support for light and dark icons for plugins. So now buttons like 1Password don't s…

Is it now possible to make the title bar blue when the window is active and grey when it's not? The lack of this feature (that once used to be the norm) is one of the most painful things for me.

Re: Firefox 56: Last Stop Before Quantum

#109

Post by kirillkh »

51Cards wrote: post #100

Tab Mix Plus, DownloadThemAll, RightToClick, Status-4-Evar... all regularly used by me, none migrated yet. Not to mention the loss of Classic Theme Restorer's control over the UI highly disappoints me. I really really dislike being locked into the "Chrome Style" UI. I've disliked it since Chrome was released.

For me it's DownThemAll, EdgeWise, GMail Notifier, Session Manager, Status-4-Evar, SuperStop. Not upgrading until at least most of them are ported.
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