France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues

Post by ericd » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 2:20 AM UTC

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Not sure I understand the question. Isn't that "most of it"? I use a road to get to work. My work pay my salary. My salary pays amazon for crap delivered to my house. The package comes delivered on the same road. The internet connection I used to visit amazons page is delivered via fiber to my house, funded just like other infrastructure. So the road and fiber was very important for my society being a developed high-…

All of those things you mentioned are already paid by somebody: the customer pays for your broadband and couriers pay for roads thorough their revenue taxes and tolls. However, the topic here is the indirect benefit of being a wealthy nation where you can have customers wealthy enough to care about your products in the first place. The argument is that this is the result of something the society or the government did…

Post by 0xbear » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 2:46 AM UTC

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #38

> A French court ruled in July French court ruled that Google, now part of Alphabet Inc, was not liable to pay 1.1 billion euros ($1.3 billion) in back taxes because it had no “permanent establishment” in France and ran its operations there from Ireland. How strange. I didn't know Google were an Irish company. I see them when I connect to the internet from all over the world. It looks like Airbnb also have their EMEA…

Post by Nokinside » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 2:54 AM UTC

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I run business in Finland and pay high taxes. Friction is not the taxes. If it were, I would have moved my business to Estonia long time ago, it's just few hours away. I could do it over internet in few hours and start within days. There are different ways for countries compete as "business platforms". I'm not saying that some way is better than another, what I'm saying is that there are different strategies that can…

I think you've vastly confused cause and effect. Rich economies can afford high tax rates because they are rich, and poor economies have to compete for what businesses they can get. Another obvious confounder is that richer states tend to be more urban, and urban places tend to be more liberal. Which vote for higher tax rates and social programs. Rural states are more conservative which favor smaller governments. Thi…

Post by zdkl » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 3:00 AM UTC

Renaud wrote: post #104

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This is one of the main criticism about how the EU was made: freedom for funds goods and (mostly) workers to move around in the EU zone, without tariffs or constraints but no fiscal harmonization has been done. Therefore countries with low taxes (Ireland but also Luxembourg) attract a disproportionate amount of big companies HQ. Ikea, for instance, is officially declared in Luxembourg. Why so many people in EU rejoic…

I don't know where you got that so many people in the EU rejoice at the defection of the UK. It is a sad state of affair that gets the rest if the EU sad and angry. I don't see what there is to rejoice about, although I'm sure that some will see it as a benefit in some narrow way.

Post by zdkl » Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 3:05 AM UTC

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The federal corporate tax can be up to 35%, which is the highest in the world outside of some literally banana republics. Delaware has a corporate tax rate of 8.7%, California has 8.84. So yes no one is incorporating in Delaware becuase of taxes, WA, TX, NV and a few others have zero corporate tax.

Isn't this a misrepresentation of the global state? I think the corporate tax rate in France is 33% of profits, which isn't far from 35% Not sure how state tax rates interact with the federal one though