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China's New Wave of Internet Censorship: Name Verification for Online Commenting

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Also under the guise of child porn. Terrorism and "won't anybody think of the children" are a winning combo for people looking to restrict liberties.

If it's right-wingers, it'll be terrorism and "think of the children". If it's left-wingers, it'll be hate speech and "think of the women/minorities". Same outcome, of course.

I wouldn't classify "think of the children" as a right-wingers' club - Tipper Gore co-founded the PMRC.

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> I was once convinced that China was on the verge of becoming a new force in modern technology They have amazingly intelligent people and a wonderful hacker community, the problem is it stands entirely at odds with the government's "what's best for society" attitude. The problem most overtly controlling government's aren't willing to accept is that what's best for society this exact moment might not be what's best f…

You act as if the Chinese populace doesn't broadly suppprt their government, including these kinds of restrictions.

I'd say those who aren't affected don't care much. The rest tries to find ways around it. Every student I met during an exchange semester in Shanghai was using a VPN to access foreign websites.

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ID for a cell number is certainly not a requirement in the US. Or anywhere in Western Europe. Or Canada. Or Mexico. Or anywhere in South America. So where are you talking about that being a requirement ?

France: http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/France Belgium, Spain, Italy, Greece: https://www.miteksystems.com/blog/mobile-identity-verificati... US maybe soon: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4886

It's trivial to get a SIM from another EU country.

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post #37

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If it's right-wingers, it'll be terrorism and "think of the children". If it's left-wingers, it'll be hate speech and "think of the women/minorities". Same outcome, of course.

I've yet to see any proposals from the latter camp whereas I've seen dozens of pieces of legislation successfully passed and attempt to pass from the former.

There is nowadays a great deal of censorship from the left in America. For example, shutting down of talks like

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/richard-...

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#105
post #46

Anyone interested in how to get identified? You need to download an app (or a built-in feature in an app), it open your camera, you need to make it focus your head. And then you need do what the speakers(a bot) tell you to do: "Shake your head. Good!", "Blink your eyes. Good!", "Open your mouth. Good!", "...", Then your videos will be uploaded for review.

A lie.

Which part is wrong? That seems to me like a standard procedure to take an identifying photo of someone while making sure that it's really a living human head.

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I've yet to see any proposals from the latter camp whereas I've seen dozens of pieces of legislation successfully passed and attempt to pass from the former.

There is nowadays a great deal of censorship from the left in America. For example, shutting down of talks like https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/richard-...

And there is plenty of opposition from "the left" itself against that kind of censorship

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Not condoning this, but isn't this true in South Korea as well?

Yes, to sign up for pretty much any service you have to have either a cell phone contract or a bank account, both of which require a government ID. You don't need to do this to sign up for a forum, but if you want to sign up for something like a movie theater loyalty program, you need to.

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Are you aware of how the only people in the US to ever be successfully censored from the public internet for political (as opposed to legal) reasons are far-right websites? This literally happened in the last week; domain registrars (the only gateway the public has to critical public DNS infrastructure) decided to voluntarily censor various far-right websites citing "hate speech" as their justification. There is, evi…

I also found this surprising. Cloudflare specifically always took the stance that it's not their place to censor the internet, which is why they permitted extremist/terrorist content[1] that people were pressuring them to remove. It amazes me that they kept that, but deleted the alt-right stuff. Now I think these alt-right websites are disgusting, but worse than ISIS? [1] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/18/clou…

ISIS is a bad example. Antifa however? CloudFlare (and domain registrars) should either exile the extremes on either side, or allow either side. The situation right now is stupendously lopsided.

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post #37

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If it's right-wingers, it'll be terrorism and "think of the children". If it's left-wingers, it'll be hate speech and "think of the women/minorities". Same outcome, of course.

I wouldn't classify "think of the children" as a right-wingers' club - Tipper Gore co-founded the PMRC.

It works because people actually do care about kids. The hard part is figuring out what will help them.

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On top of my head: - Chat/Social Media: Wechat's P2P money transfer, cashless transaction - Drone: DJI - Phone: Xiaomi Mi Mix, One Plus series - JS framework: Vue.js

> Chat/Social Media: Wechat's P2P money transfer, cashless transaction helps when there are no foreign competitors (thanks, GFW!), and credit/debit card infrastructure is underdeveloped > Phone: Xiaomi Mi Mix, One Plus series Both of which are barely profitable or operating at a loss >JS framework: Vue.js MVVC with html bindings has been around for years now

So I'm just wondering if your measurement of success/leader is based on innovation, profitability, or popularity?

Because you seem to be picking the whatever that suit your argument, while we usually consider any one of them to be an achievement.

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